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#8308: Re: ..

by CCmachine[Lappy]cookie#3 on 06/25/2007 23:15, refers to #8291

add -f0 to the startup script in the exec to disable shaders.

with i810 drivers i can get some shader-like effects in Linux like water reflection(?) and item shadows :)

but still, occluders aren\\\'t working ... can someone please answer my last post if possible [shown below]


[last post]
i notice i have the same problem that i did on linux - occlusion _is not_ working! (being I look afrom the corner of a map into the middle and although theres the same amount of geography that should be rendered [there are walls in frost of the rest of the map], my FPS plummets to 5 or less from 30 or more.)

i remember hearing something like this from wasda:
\\\"I refuse to implement an occluder system that only works on the newer (nvidia/ATI) cards, which the older cards so badly need.\\\"
I know most of the guys on here aren\\\'t a big fan of his but: he has a good point. Sauerbraten is quite demanding, and occlusion culling is important!

I\\\'m a total newb when it comes to occluder theory/code, but could it be done on a intel 950 card? aplologies if it cannot...
[/last post]

I would greatly appreciate an answer :D

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#8309: Re: Finishing the weaponset.

by rancor on 06/25/2007 23:24, refers to #8307

I think its the first halfway sane weapon related suggestion I've seen posted here in some time. Though, 50-60 damage seems a little high, as it'd be really easy to spam with a high rate of fire. If it was more like 35-40 or so, it'd be nicely between the shotgun and the machine gun.

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#8310: Re: Finishing the weaponset.

by tentus_ on 06/26/2007 00:22, refers to #8307

I wish all the weapon requests were this thought out. Though I doubt it'll ever happen, I congratulate you for using actual logic and grammar.

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#8311: flamethrower

by Captain_Ahab on 06/26/2007 00:42

I think its a good idea

a weapon with ultra rate of fire that spits out fireballs might make a nice flamethrower, eh?

low damage per fireball I'd guess

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#8312: Re: flamethrower

by rancor on 06/26/2007 01:48, refers to #8311

Not really like that, more like Quake 2/Quake 4 hyperblaster.

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#8313: creating a server on mac os x

by capn on 06/26/2007 02:19

hey, im running assaultcube (not saur) on a mac with mac os x. when i try creating a server it says something like \\\"didnt respond to ping-check your firewall settings\\\" or sumthin along those lines. even when i completely turn off my firewall it still says to check my firewall settings. any suggestions? email me at capncrunch9233@aim.com or AIM capncrunch9233

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#8314: ..

by djGentoo on 06/26/2007 02:34

It means your firewall is blocking pings. Try turning off ICMP filtering.

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#8315: Re: Finishing the weaponset.

by Khane on 06/26/2007 03:24, refers to #8309

It needs the high damage to distinguish itself from the machinegun, which is much easier to hit with. Think about it. With the hyperblaster, you have to lead the shots almost like a rocket. The machinegun has no such limitation, thus, it needs high damage AND a good ROF.

Machinegun:4 hits, 120 damage.
Hyperblaster: 2 hits, 100 damage.

See?

The other option is to give it a good rate on armor. For example, the railgun deals half to armor. Why not make the hyperblaster useful in that it helps one bypass armor? Like with a 70% penetration.

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#8316: Re: Finishing the weaponset.

by rancor on 06/26/2007 03:42, refers to #8315

You've obviously never seen me use the rocket launcher :). I'd also say that the grenade launcher is close to that particular scenario, on a good day I have decent odds of hitting someone with two grenades for ~120 damage.
So, say you made it 40 damage per hit, made projectile rather then hitscan, and made the projectile speed quite fast, with a flat trajectory. Additionally, you'd want to give it a fairly large spread, almost as much as the shotgun, to limit it to fairly short ranges. With some rate of fire tweaks, it would fit quite nicely in with the other weapons.
Keep in mind, with the formula I outlined, it'd be 3 hits == 120 damage, which is actually alot more powerful then the Quake style hyperblaster.

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#8317: weapon

by Captain_Ahab on 06/26/2007 15:32

only other fps I ever played was duke nukem, blood and shogo. I have no idea what quake weapons are like.

but idea of spraying fire like a flamethrower is what I had in mind.
ultra high rate fire grenade launcher with fireball for graphic instead of shiny-ball-thing..lower damage and explosion radius

just an idea

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#8318: help

by dandy on 06/26/2007 17:03

when i start sauterban it freezes and in the corner says it cant rad some stuff

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#8319: correction

by dandy on 06/26/2007 17:03

*read

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#8320: multiplayer sauerbraten question?

by gooseman on 06/26/2007 21:53

Why, when I try to play sauerbraten online, do no servers show up?

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#8321: Re: multiplayer sauerbraten question?

by rancor on 06/26/2007 23:20, refers to #8320

Because you haven't updated the server list.

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#8322: new weapon like...

by SanHolo on 06/27/2007 17:31

BFG 9000!!!!

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#8323: Re: Finishing the weaponset.

by Aardappel_ on 06/28/2007 04:42, refers to #8307

leaving out the Q2 "hyperblaster" (or the Q1 super nailgun, or the Doom/Q3 plasma rifle etc etc) was done on purpose. In each of those games, it is always the "spam" weapon, the weapon people resort to in close-medium range with no skill required. All the other weapons in the game require a certain level of precision, timing or tactics.

It be the easiest change ever, it would take at most 3 lines of code to add a player-shootable fireball. But I don't want it in for gameplay reasons.

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#8324: Re: Finishing the weaponset.

by theW4, finally can post again on 06/28/2007 05:27, refers to #8323

WE need a nail gun/ like minority report game and crackdown. With ragdoll physics as well, the results are quiet entertaining. Dead players are flown through the air and stick to walls. It doesnt add anything to the "action" value of the game but damn is it funny,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvneJ-LHJpg&mode=related&search=



Somone should also make a code where bodies do not sink down and disapear. would require a really good computer for this. Like in a bf1942 mod where there were 100,000 server tickets and bodies stayed in the same stop after they died. It was berlin too so the entire map was full of dead bodies. It was the funnies thing ever but caused massive laggy action .

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#8325: Re: Finishing the weaponset.

by windows_sux|mac_sux|linux_sux|bsd_sux on 06/28/2007 11:58, refers to #8324

I lol'd

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#8326: ..

by Max of S2D [Fr] on 06/29/2007 12:47

the CVS version : :O

http://www.dailymotion.com/Max_of_S2D/video/x2eq2x_sauerbraten-v11-cvs

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#8327: Message censored by administrator

by Government man... on 06/29/2007 14:41

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