Strife mod

by ende on 12/31/2005 19:37, 31 messages, last message: 01/29/2006 10:56, 4669 views, last view: 05/04/2024 19:18

Anyone remember an old Doom variant called "Strife"?

http://www.csoon.com/issue15/strife.htm
http://www.caiman.us/scripts/fw/f1506.html

I've been wanting to do a remake of this game for years, and Cube would be a great engine to do this with. If there are any others out there who remember this great 3PS/RPG and get feelings of nostalgia looking back at the screenshots (haha), I want to hear from you.

If there seems to be some general interest in this, I might take it up as a project.

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#12: ..

by makkE on 01/08/2006 22:39

Didn´t say it was bad :)

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#13: Re: ..

by Passa on 01/09/2006 00:58, refers to #12

well yes. all these dos first person shooters were before my time and i cant stand to play them. the first fps game i got was unreal tournament 2003. then i worked backwards to things like quake II and half-life. but anyway, thats more of a reason to move this erm, fps game to the new era. i rekon, use sauerbraten, drop in some new models or just modify the existing ones skins. like i said before ende, id be happy to help with maps in sauerbraten. maybe put up a small site with info on it on a free host, a link to download it at www.quadropolis.us etc. like i said, forget multiplayer. just focus on replicating singleplayer. also, does anyone noe how to get the damn game working properly? i have no sound and the graphics go SLOW. is there a winstrife addon or something like winquake?

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#14: Re: ..

by Passa on 01/09/2006 03:55, refers to #13

i worket it out. for those of you who are having problems trying strife on your newish computers with windows xp, get virtual pc 2004 and emulate dos 6.22. now i can play it normal speed with sound. although i am unchanged. it is still lame. i would play DooM anyday over this. and i see no evidence of a storyline ende. it starts off and your being attacked and all you have are fists. man if thats the era of gaming i missed out on then thank god. the only dos game i have ever enjoyed was descent. you can download that here: http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/download/game/4 altough it has no relevance to anything really. :)

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by makkE on 01/09/2006 05:02

He thanks for that tip I will check it out, always had a problem with old dos stuff after changing to extra pain.

I wasn´t saing it was a gem, I´m a graphics guy so I just mentioned some beautiful pixels there, nothing more.
And like you, descent was my favourite game of that "era" I still fly a round now and then :)

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#16: Strife..

by BioSAtan on 01/09/2006 05:35

Strife was and is still an exellent game... i jsut love it, a bit better story than doom/wolfenstein and all of the fps:es of its time... man, i would like a linux remake on strife :)

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#17: Re: ..

by dcp on 01/09/2006 05:42, refers to #14

better use a program called dosBox (actually a DOS emulator), i'd say it's better than waste processor power to run virtualPC

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#18: Re: ..

by Passa on 01/09/2006 13:24, refers to #17

it works ok for strife (dosbox) but is slow (10fps) with other dos games (descent). vpc only uses 32megs of ram for dos and very little cpu power. i only notice performance issues with it using redhat 9. but anyway, rather than turning this discussion into a talk about old dos games that came out before my era, back to the point. ende, after looking at the indoor graphics in strife, i made tiny map in 20 mins just to understand exactly want it is you want to achieve. http://members.iinet.net.au/~passarello/strifetest.ogz
download it there. i made it with the old version of sauer (the one before the 'independence edition' version). should work with the new version. two main reasons why you should use sauerbraten instead of cube are: you can have levels on top of each other and the lighting in sauer is awesome. anyway, if you can get some new textures, the mod would look awesome. the map is exremerly basic and only to show you what you can achieve graphically if you decide to do this mod. i rekon u should. but you might not be able to implement the rpg elements (like talking to people) as that would involve serious source editing. also, it is very possible you will be able to put in a fully working frontend system. email me at apassarello - AT- gmail.com if you want any help with the mod etc.

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#19: Re: ..

by Passa on 01/09/2006 13:46, refers to #18

ooh wait... you cant legally make a mod of strife. isnt it copyright?

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#20: Re: ..

by pofinger on 01/09/2006 19:15, refers to #19

Orginal content is protected by
Copyright Laws but immitate the Content
is not ilegal.
you just make all new Sounds,Music,Textues,

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#21: ..

by pofinger on 01/09/2006 19:24

Example: on this<a href="http://www.doomsdayhq.com" target="_blank">http://www.doomsdayhq.com</a> site you can download
new Textures,models for Doom, Heretic and Hexen

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#22: Re: ..

by Passa on 01/09/2006 20:37, refers to #21

oh ok. but isnt using the same name still illegal?

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#23: Seriously?

by pushplay on 01/10/2006 02:51

A better story than doom and wolfenstein?

Were the graphics better than pong also? Was the action faster than chess?

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#24: Re: Seriously?

by Passa on 01/10/2006 05:59, refers to #23

yes very funny pushplay. but seriously ende like say something here. are you gonna bother with this mod idea or not?

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#25: Re: Seriously?

by pushplay on 01/11/2006 04:39, refers to #24

Thanks, I try.

Like I've said before, having a proof of concept is everything when it comes to getting support for a project. It's the same for shopping a game to a publisher, and it's the same for getting hired.

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#26: ..

by sinsky on 01/11/2006 15:10

I loved Strife back in the day. It was doom with rpg elements, felt like a new universe for me, you know, story and everything.. there were rpgs at the time, some even 3D, but this used the doom engine which was the tip of technology. The only thing I don't like about it right now is it's not open-source like doom, otherwise Doomsday would support it.

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#27: Re: ..

by dcp on 01/12/2006 05:22, refers to #26

yeah, doomsday support would be cool... i still play hexen via their engine sometimes... or on my N64... ;-)

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#28: Strife

by shahar2k on 01/12/2006 14:11

heh it's funny hearing about somone who considers strife old, as it was the LAST of the games made using the doom engine, and imho one of the best games out there period,

the game is more revolutionary than people give it credit for, just the big battle scene when you fight alongside other rebels to retake a big compound was something far ahead of its time
not to mention some of those cool weapons and awesome art style...

maybe that is nostalgia, but then again unlike most people here I can just pick up my legal copy and install it on dosbox :)


a little word of advice for the would be mod-guy this is not a forum to ask people for help, people here are not mod people, you need to ask people who have a passion for creating games, find sites full of artists, programmers so on... learn as much as you can yourself, if you cant understand every aspect of a mod at least a bit you cant lead it...

oh and 9 out of 10 mods fail, and they fail because people give up, no other reason. the more people you have from the start the more likely some will give up and drag the rest with them, find close friends, people you can rely on to get the ball rolling, THEN find people who can help out on the side, I've been involved with several mods (some out, some not) and the ones that came out simply had people that wont give up

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#29: a

by hello ^_^ on 01/12/2006 14:25

i wouldnt mind mapping and working on a webpage

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#30: Re: Strife

by dcp on 01/13/2006 15:30, refers to #28

you didn't confuse strife with origin's cybermage, did you? ;-)

i'm saying this because there was a level where you had to do something similar to what you described...

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#31: Re: Strife

by shahar on 01/29/2006 10:56, refers to #30

hehe definitely not, I actually never played cybermage more than a few seconds (old demo) but I own strife, strife is one of those games I go back to once in a while just to experience again, up there with thief2, doom, jagged alliance 2 in my book...

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