Buggy "stereo sound" [Win+Linux]

by kracho! on 08/26/2005 17:31, 46 messages, last message: 09/09/2005 15:17, 11383 views, last view: 05/05/2024 06:20

Yeh, I'm having some serious trouble with the new stereo sound in cube_2005.
The problem is that once a sound (enemy gunfire for example) is starts, it doesn't change it's "angle" (where it comes from), even if you turn around or die/respawn.

This is a really serious matter since the ingame-sound is now totally confusing and useless.

We need a bugfix as soon as possible.

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#27: Re: Sound is fine

by -Rick- on 08/29/2005 23:03, refers to #24

Sound indeed seems to work fine now :)
I even thought I heard more sounds than else, but that could just be me.

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#28: ..

by -Rick- on 08/29/2005 23:09

Morgaine: Can you please stop with trying to be annoying? Thanks

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#29: Re: ..

by Aardappel_ on 08/30/2005 00:17, refers to #29

I guess most people don't have a clue what an "open source" project means. It does not mean that it is a free for all where everyone can just come in and make whatever changes they like. Pretty much every OS project out there has a hierarchy and is strictly controlled. The linux kernel is governed by Linus and he has his trusted developers like Alan Cox to help him. Random unknown people don't get to commit anything, only once they have proven themselves, created very good and useful code which has been verified by the main developers maybe his code will be added.

You can of course always go and make your own kernel of course. But if you want the quality that comes with Linus's decisions, you play by his rules.

I can see it now, first post after joining the linux kernel developer list:

"Hi I am so and so. Here's 5 lines for your kernel, which I haven't really tested. I have 50 more lines, but to get them, you need to give me CVS access, I don't want you linux kernel people profiting from my amazing work without getting something in return! And you clearly need my help because you all suck".

Or better yet, would be morgaine:

"Hi, I am the mighty morgaine. From looking at your project, you are all a bunch of newbies, and clearly know nothing about kernel development! I, on the other hand, even though I have absolutely nothing to show for myself, know everything, and you should all be very thankfull that I will tell you from now on how to do things (but don't ask me for code, I'm not a programmer, haha!). If you fail to do at any time what I think is Right (tm), I will just start quoting random snippets of wisdom regurgitated from slashdot, and make you all look like the fools you are! Everyone will be impressed by me, and you will have no choice but to obey."

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#30: ..

by -Rick- on 08/30/2005 00:41

Morgaine:...I don't have anything against wasda or Aard, its just that your posts lately are becoming very annoying.

I actually don't know why you're still here; according to you both cube and sauers design suck and the main authors aswell.
I think you said that you like cube of its simplicity...on the other hand all the time you suggest genericness through plugins and what not. IMO this isn't simplicity at all.

And lastly...this is really Aard's project, he can do anything what he wants. He doesn't owe us anything, instead we should be happy that he is willing to do this. And Aard does take suggestions/patches in account, as long as they are reasonable enough for him(better start reading the readmes if you want to know what he finds reasonable ;) )

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#31: Re: ..

by Aardappel_ on 08/30/2005 01:43, refers to #31

actions speak louder than words. but yeah, if you absolutely have to, msg to me on irc, I am around a lot 19-2 CST weekdays.

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#32: ..

by makkE on 08/30/2005 01:48

I´ll be abusing this thread a little more.

Aard: Does your format exporter work with gmax aswell?

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#33: Re: ..

by kracho! on 08/30/2005 02:02, refers to #33

Amusing :>

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#34: Re: ..

by CrazyTB on 08/30/2005 03:21, refers to #34

That plugin system would work only if it is cross-platform. Loading a dynamic object won't be cross-platform, and can easily introduce bugs.

So, I'm against your style of plugins. However, if you program such things in a interpreted language (maybe Lua), then this plugin system could be possible, since the same plugin/script will work on all platforms, without change.

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#35: ..

by makkE on 08/30/2005 19:04

I don´t see your problem at all wasda,
You should accept that Aardapple is leading the project.

If you were intrested in litterally contributing, you´d be fine now, and you wouldn´t bitch about if it was you who typed those lines or someone else.

You wanted stereo sound, we got it now.
It´s not your original code anymore, but shouldn´t you just be happy it´s working now?

I myself contributed some stuff other than maps to sauer and cube, most of it hasn´t been mentioned anywhere, but I don´t care about that really. I am happy my stuff is in. And if someone else would have come around enhancing my stuff with superior skills or come up with some own and better stuff, I´d be just as happy about the quality increase to the entire project...

Note meaning 1.a from a dictonary:

to contribute:
1 : to give or supply in common with others
1 a : to play a significant part in bringing about an end or result´

That´s what contributing is about..
Imagine I would have said:

Look I made a rocket, but you´ll only have it if I´ll be co-leader in your mod and noone touch my work even if it could be made better, plus I reserve the right to withdraw it at any time..

Take a look at pcube: Aard integrated some code/ideas of it, and partly rewrote it, now did you see driAn show up an go "Hey aard you stole that, it was my code, you didn´t even mention what lines are mine, and why didn´t you just gimme cvs acces, I want it back buuhuhuh..."
Nope, driAn was proud of some of our ideas going into cube..

So why do you bitch about 6 lines of code that turned out to be needing improvement anyways?

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#36: ..

by makkE on 08/30/2005 20:07

Ah why should I bother...

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#37: ..

by kracho! on 08/30/2005 20:23

This is my thread, st00pid flamers. Get lost ;p

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#38: Re: fix....

by eihrul on 08/30/2005 21:29, refers to #35

I'm sorry, but the code wasn't copied. Sheesh, why would I go through the trouble of copying code and removing comments, when refactoring the existing sound code to do what I want was far easier and cleaner? Refer to occam's razor, please.

There are only so many ways to code any simple concept, and strong similarities pop up. Look at matrix multiplication written by 20 different people, and it will all look like they "copied". This was not rocket science - you're just iterating over channels and changing the volume.

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#39: Re: fix....

by eihrul on 08/30/2005 21:42, refers to #39

Because people can't complain about code being broken before it's been written.

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#40: ..

by pushplay on 08/31/2005 01:39

This has officially turned from annoying to aggravating.

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#41: Re: fix....

by Aardappel_ on 08/31/2005 01:48, refers to #35

eihrul wrote the code. I saw it was similar to yours, so I asked him wether it was based on yours. He said no. I assume eihrul does not lie.

the code structure for keeping track of channels you can only write in so many ways, so its not suprising it looks similar. I don't care.

And the fact that you are again making such a hoopla about this shows that you don't get it. You clearly feel really selfimportant about something which if it had been a contribution, it would have been a miniscule one on the scale of things. I fear what happens when you write something over 1000 lines... what will you do? write a book about it?

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#42: Re: ..

by kracho! on 08/31/2005 12:39, refers to #42

That's life.

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#43: Re: fix....

by CrazyTB on 08/31/2005 23:57, refers to #43

I'm not sure if Aard is a good person to work with, but I don't feel that you, wasda, is a good co-worker.

Like Aard said two times, some things look very similar, and being programmed by different people. I saw this happening once, more or less in front of my eyes.

I will suppose that nobody here is lying, because I see no reason to do that.

You may have experience with cube, you may be year visiting this forum, but you aren't better than others, and you can't accuse eithrul of stealing your code. Your attitude here is childish. You should really calm down.

I'm not saying Aard attitude is always ok. In fact, I'm not talking about Aard in this message.

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#44: All well and good.. but!

by Cashel on 09/09/2005 00:47

The stereo sound is still buggy :P

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#45: ..

by _Fanatic on 09/09/2005 06:52

God I love you guys, this was awesome. :)

Aard is awesome to work with. No doubt about that.

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#46: ..

by sinsky on 09/09/2005 15:17

I was away for a month or so (no internet where I went), last time I was here I integrated wasdaplus' stereo code into Orb and updated the credits, here's a quote: "..., Makke (needlegun model base) and Wasdaplus (stereo code) on the Cube forums ..". Now that I come home however I see this topic and it kinda sucks, I really don't know what to do so let's begin by asking you guys. It would be best for me not to go back (I think it will be a waste of time, not that my time is precious but still..) however seeing the situation here I guess this won't do. People don't care but if someone actually does a search in this forum they'll probably come right here and that's not what we want is it? So what should I do.

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