Cube 2 Idea Mine - Discuss

by AlternateLives on 11/23/2011 19:53, 237 messages, last message: 03/22/2018 02:32, 248182 views, last view: 11/01/2024 13:17

After seeing idea after idea get shot down all over the place in these forums, it occurred to me that perhaps this thread might be a good idea.

Got an idea for a Cube 2 mod? Go ahead and get it out of your system and post it here. If you are a modder, scroll through these. Maybe one of them can give you some inspiration.

Note to developers and long-time forum users: this is not intended to be a place where future updates or changes to the game you know and love to be posted. This is merely a place where half-formed (but possibly good) ideas can be discussed at present value without having them immediately shot down.

On that note, the only rule: No attacking of ideas just because they are not implementable within the current engine.

Have fun!

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#60: Re: Why 5 seconds respawn time in capture?

by Zorg on 02/03/2012 00:23, refers to #59

+1

Do it for us stick-in-the-muds. Nobody will complain 'cause nobody will care.

(Wtf, same math question as on quadropolis 20 seconds ago. Owned that math test. Skill comes with pratice!)

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#61: Re: Why 5 seconds respawn time in capture?

by suicizer01 on 02/03/2012 00:26, refers to #59

If you died you can't defend your base, that's probably the reason why it the spawndelay has been set to 5 seconds.

Nevertheless, I also agree 10 seconds was just fine.

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#62: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 02/03/2012 00:29, refers to #58

That's just the reason why I love the jumpppad sound of SauerEnhanced, by Q009 ^^.

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#63: ..

by Papriko on 03/18/2012 16:18

Due to the fact that SP ents are probably not going to be ported to MP soon, what about this:

Auto-adjusting ents. When you place boxes and barrels, they load normally in SP mode, but when you play in MP they directly convert themselves to mapmodels with the same values (used model, angle).
Might be somewhat useful, right now do boxes and barrels simply turn into air.

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#64: Single Weapon Efficiency (simplified tactics)

by Zorg on 03/19/2012 10:08

The basic and quite simple idea:

An addition to efficiency where you can specify just one of the weapons for the match. We already got it for the rifle (called insta), but I think it would be nice to do this with the other weapons, too. I could imagine this being a command line option only, maybe be typing "/effic1" ... "/effic4" for shotgun, machinegun, rockets and nades.

I could imagine that might be a nice feature for players who want to improve with a certain weapon. And it would be fun, of course. I'm aware that this suggestion is a tiny bit similar to tactics arena, but it is still very different, as both players have the same (and only one) weapon here.

Anyways, this would probably be very easy to implement, which is why I wanted to put this out here for discussion. What do you think of it?

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#65: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 03/19/2012 20:54, refers to #63

? Never knew that.
Should there be any good reason for that actually?

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#66: Re: Single Weapon Efficiency (simplified tactics)

by suicizer01 on 03/19/2012 21:00, refers to #64

It has been done already several times on modified servers (I remember it was one RB server a long time ago? Anyway, they got experience so ask them).
Better to call it something like insta_rocket, insta_nade, etc, as efficiency is based on all weapons, not just 1 (even there are some players which think that it should be played with 1 weapon, like rockets).
I wouldn't mind as a fun-mode, but it's not really something which is that useful.

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#67: Re: Single Weapon Efficiency (simplified tactics)

by Zorg on 03/19/2012 23:46, refers to #66

YOu definitely can't call it insta_something, as insta would mean you die instantly. I'm thinking of the normal 100 health plus 100 armor like in effic.

I know this might be of limited use, but as a servermod, I don't think this goes well with the masterserver rules. Plus it is very easy to implement in the first place. Plus it might really be fun and might be able to be an incentive for players to explore Sauerbraten beyond instamodes like iCTF and insta on venice :)

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#68: Re: Single Weapon Efficiency (simplified tactics)

by Papriko on 03/20/2012 16:54, refers to #67

I already suggested something similar some pages ago (see post 12 in this thread). I actually also like the idea, but the others refused it for a bunch of reasons:
1. pistol rounds would be boring

2. grenade rounds would lag too much

3. rocket rounds would lag too much as well

4. if you really want a map to be played with 1 gun only, place ammo accordingly

If you ask me rather bad arguments actually.

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#69: ..

by degrave3 on 03/20/2012 17:35

RB still have private server running with all possible gameplay mods. Only first game is fun with insta_someweapon all other rounds become boring and not interesting.

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#70: Re: ..

by Papriko on 03/20/2012 22:11, refers to #69

And in which way is insta_rifle any better than insta_someweapon? It is the same principle.

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#71: ..

by Zorg on 03/21/2012 10:34

DeGrave:
1. As your site is under construction: is this server accessible to anyone (-> ip/port?) or clan-internal?
2. Is it instant death (with 1 health from the start) or more effic-like with normal health?

Papriko:
Bad arguments indeed. Best is #4: If people really wanted everyone to only use rifle, they could've just put tons of rifle ammo everywhere, no need for a seperate gamemode! ;)
There is a difference between rifle and other weapons, though. Depending on the amount of health you start with, of course.
a) 1 health + rockets + 20 players => madness
b) 100 health + 100 armor + rockets + 2 players => fun(?)

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#72: Re: ..

by Quin on 03/21/2012 11:14, refers to #71

> b) 100 health + 100 armor + rockets + 2 players => fun(?)

Ballistic mutator in Red Eclipse proves that to be half true, but only for the first couple of times. It's really annoying when you're over it but newbies keep voting for it.

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#73: Re: ..

by Zorg on 03/21/2012 14:13, refers to #72

Alright, I believe you. On the other hand: Fun the first couple of times, no newbie will vote it if it's a command line option... :D

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#74: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 03/21/2012 19:12, refers to #73

Even Newbies can learn, also using the console line...

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#75: Re: ..

by Zorg on 03/21/2012 21:04, refers to #69

Alright, thanks to the fine guys at RB, I could try it. It is definitelly boring, way more boring than expected. I take back everything I said, this is not a good idea, sorry for wasting your time :)

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#76: Re: ..

by Razgriz on 03/21/2012 22:37, refers to #75

Wasting our time is all that ever happens :D

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#77: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 03/21/2012 22:51, refers to #76

+1
It's just a matter of how you waste your time...

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#78: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 03/21/2012 22:52, refers to #72

So is insta-team venice...

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#79: Re: ..

by Redon on 03/29/2012 09:11, refers to #72

You must admit though that the rockets in RE behave a whole lot differently from those in Sauer, in a way that I imagine a rockets-only mode to be more fun in Sauer than in RE.

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