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How does anyone participate with attitudes like this?

by Quin on 08/25/2006 04:27, 21 messages, last message: 09/01/2006 23:35, 5118 views, last view: 05/04/2024 20:31

Yes, I'm modifying sauerbraten.

No, I'm not asking you to support me or give me help, or provide me with everything I need.

Yes, I believe in the open source spirit of collaboration and sharing.

No, I do not want to take credit for your excellent hard work.

I do have one question though, every time I try to participate I get treated like this:

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11:03.17 <quin> is there a particular reason the water texture is blue?
11:04.00 <Todretter> it isnt blue
11:04.12 <Todretter> it is just a very poor representation of red
11:04.31 <quin> (because if the material is shaded blue to begin with, it makes little difference other than to shade the water blue no matter what colour you set it to)
11:05.40 <Todretter> should I make a new teleporter
11:06.50 <@eihrul> because the material is not blended?
11:07.32 <Todretter> ah eihrul i just remember a slight bug in Sauer
11:07.51 <Todretter> if you are under water they lighting doesnt work
11:08.17 <Todretter> is there a way to fix that
11:10.30 <@eihrul> i don't see it not working
11:11.19 <Todretter> if you have lighting above the water it wouldnt filter through the water
11:11.47 <Todretter> it basically took the brightness of the light but not the color
11:12.52 <Todretter> try setting a very bright red light above the water
11:13.15 <Todretter> out of the water you can see it looks red on the surfaces beneath the water
11:13.53 <@eihrul> it's supposed to be like that, dude
11:14.01 <@eihrul> the blue is caused by subtractive blending
11:20.38 <quin> yeah the same stuff as the damage blend
11:21.02 <quin> again there, blue looks weird when the water is a different colour
11:22.03 <@eihrul> don't make it a different color
11:22.22 <quin> then what's /watercolour for? :P
11:22.35 <@eihrul> to change the lighting on it
11:22.38 <@eihrul> since it has no real lighting
11:22.55 <quin> which lets you make yellow or gree water in effect
11:23.00 <quin> green*
11:23.22 <quin> otherwise it should just be a single integer intensity value
11:23.29 <@eihrul> yeah, you can, but it doesn't mean we care if you do that :P
11:23.49 <@eihrul> and people have used it just fine for coloring
11:23.55 <@eihrul> they just never made water deep enough that you could go under it
11:25.03 * quin finds it useful
11:25.36 <quin> then again, i went to the opposite end of the extreme with materials ;p
11:27.06 <@eihrul> water is in the process of being rewritten anyway
11:29.16 * @Corpus_C can't wait to see the new water.
11:34.14 <@eihrul> don't hold your breath, i haven't even started on it yet
11:34.52 * @Corpus_C lets out alot of held air.
11:35.48 <@Corpus_C> water is ONE thing you guys could compete with the modern big $ engines 8)
11:36.20 <@Corpus_C> ....with
11:36.23 <quin> what's the plan with it?
11:36.32 <quin> optimize it?
11:36.44 <@eihrul> plan? are we supposed to have one of those?
11:37.00 <@Corpus_C> quin, my plan is just to kick back my feet and wait for eihrul to finish it ;)
11:37.06 <quin> well you said you're rewriting it, i assumed there was a point to doing so
11:37.50 <@Corpus_C> shader eye candy. maybe thats all that can be said
11:38.15 <quin> no, nothing's been said.
11:38.32 <@Corpus_C> nothing you saw 8)
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For what it's worth, I had created neutral water and cloud/fog textures which could be shaded any colour that I'd wanted to share. I don't particular like this kinda of treatment though.

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by chead on 08/25/2006 05:30

IMO you were the one with the bad attitude... I won't get involved with flames, though, so that's all that'll be said on my part.