Cheats

by Ralph on 06/05/2002 19:02, 63 messages, last message: 06/24/2003 00:34, 12332 views, last view: 05/18/2024 22:29

Are they cheats in "Cube"?

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#25: ..

by >driAn< on 04/19/2003 16:15

But it's very important!

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by Skaus on 04/20/2003 13:50, refers to #25

no

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by spentron today on 04/20/2003 21:06

Fired up Babelfish .. sounds like a pretty minor advantage that would give (I presume it would work -- I don't think you could add powerups since that requires the server (I sometimes have to slow down at powerups just for them to get picked up at all)). Also would be rather obvious, not that that stopped anyone before. I can't see any reason to use it anyway -- other than to prove you can for a minute -- unless some real competition is atarted, and then the obviousness would definitely be an issue. I'll be watching for people walking through walls in the future, for sure.

Incidently, I played some the other night against people with pings of 30 or even less -- were they actually on or LANed to the server?

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by Möchte unerkannt bleiben! on 04/21/2003 01:13

Man ey ihr seht das viel zu ernst ist Cube euer leben oder was seid ihr solche Freaks?

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by koRsan on 04/21/2003 09:38

No. We play cube because it makes big fun. And if some idiots come and use this shit, there is no more fun in this game.

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by >driAn< on 04/21/2003 10:57

jo!

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by Pathegreat on 04/21/2003 15:30

cheats cheats cheats! the worst place to put a cheat is online, singleplayer just mmeans you are kidding yourself and u will never get better but once your go online witgh cheats your wreck it for everyone

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by frank__i on 04/21/2003 17:41

but we just have to hope that in the next version of cube , theres no way to do cheats online

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by >driAn< on 04/21/2003 17:49

A "map - comparing" ?

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by hungerburg on 04/22/2003 15:35, refers to #33

maybe this could also be helpful in coop editing; both client and server periodically or on demand exchange md5sums of the map files; different sums will write the player names in italics or colored. so players know, when they are synched.

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by pushplay on 04/23/2003 03:51, refers to #34

md5sums are a good way of checking that everyone is on the same map, but what if you're coop mapping? Or what if someone just doesn't have that map yet?

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by bobbity on 04/23/2003 07:26, refers to #35

Some sort of check summing of the maps seems like a good way to prevent map faking and would be useful for coopediting although i dont no exactly how you would impliment it for the coopediting how would you decide whos version of the map was the valid version if check sums don't match ?

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by pushplay on 04/23/2003 09:35, refers to #36

It's a small community. Small enough that we can tar and feather cheaters without needing to automate it. Aard's at a serious advantage over all other fps devs on that one.

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by Shockie on 04/23/2003 10:45, refers to #37

true pushplay, and why would you need to check maps on co-op, your not actualy playing the game, so cheats are ineffective... i though that was pretty obvious, but still

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by Aardappel on 04/23/2003 17:29, refers to #32

it is pretty much impossible to make a game 100% cheat proof, but cube certainly is very bad at it. I made cube for fun, and never thought it would become big enough that cheating was a major issue. Yes I can add things to the next release to detect "mapfaking", but it will just become a ratrace with the cheaters, and I have better things to do with my time.

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by Whatever on 04/23/2003 23:14, refers to #39

Apart from mapfaking, I really can't come up with any other idea on how to cheat.

You can take this fight aard! :)

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by pushplay on 04/24/2003 00:13, refers to #40

No, Aard's right, the price of defeating cheats is eternal vigilence. That's fine for punkbuster because they get a salary for it, but we can deal with it ourselves.

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by VerbalC on 04/24/2003 03:11, refers to #35

I agree md5sums would be great. If the game mode is coopedit, simply not check in that game mode.
If they don't have the map then that's a problem.

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by Pathegreat on 04/24/2003 03:18

ok some people map fake with is wrong but hew cares i dont take cube serously its all 4 fun just call him a stupid fuck and thats it no harm done u no, as long as i does not screw up everything its fine, well not 2 do just 2 be able 2 live with, I HATE CHEATERS! u dig?

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by Skaus on 04/24/2003 14:47

I think putting in some simple checks to prevent mapfaking would be worth it. Messing up the map a little is so easy i would bother to do it for such a small game if i was the cheating type. But i couldn't be arsed to reverse engineer code etc to make hacks.

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