Cheating

by CC machine on 05/21/2005 21:24, 31 messages, last message: 06/13/2005 22:20, 10402 views, last view: 05/18/2024 18:02

There are other types of cheating other than mods of cube, for example:

using a modded map to give the player an advantage (e.g. flood the map to enable flying to dodge rockets etc.)

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#1: ..

by yanqui on 06/04/2005 01:56

just curious but does anyone consider a zoom macro and /fog 1024 to be cheeting?

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#2: RE: #1

by midwinter on 06/04/2005 02:15

I think everything that can be set by cfg/console is fine. I mean, you're just changing the fov which can be set anyway..

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#3: ..

by yanqui on 06/04/2005 04:17

that's more or less what I figured, but my step-son disagreed

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by tentus on 06/04/2005 06:31, refers to #3

ehh... it's kind of up in the air. on a rocket or shotgun map it would matter, but on a sniping level it could give one player a significant upper hand... in my MOD i went ahead and included a zoom feature, just to avoid the problem outright (it also helps when mapping out large maps, so it's not entirely a gameplay issue.)

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#5: typo

by tentus on 06/04/2005 06:32

>>on a rocket or shotgun map it wouldn't matter

sorry about that.

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#6: Re: #1

by jean pierre on 06/04/2005 07:19, refers to #2

Fov thing about Zooming should be well removed in Cube/SauerBraten cause its just a cheating issue and i dont see why zooming was implemented in this engine anyway?

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by staffy2005 on 06/04/2005 07:32

I think that scripts such as these:
http://cube.snieb.com/node/26
http://cube.snieb.com/node/66
do give you a bit of an advantage but I wouldn't call it cheating.

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by makkE on 06/04/2005 13:43

Those are just settings and possibility the engine allows you to have.
A zoom script is definately not cheating.
Changing the fog can´t be really considered cheating. It´s not controllable anyways.
Both might give you a small advantage, but the one or 2 frags you might get more from it don´t count really.
Even lightscale is just an engine feature.
Cheating starts when you use features that people using a non modified cube package cannot access.

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#9: hmm

by CC_machine on 06/04/2005 14:21

hmm yes.. i use that ancieed zoom thing and i always change the fog to 1024 when im playing.. but i dont think it is cheating

Aard what do you think?

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#10: Re: hmm

by jean pierre on 06/04/2005 15:28, refers to #9

Zooming is cheating if you are playing instagib in multiplayer cause you can hit him easy.

I MEAN THIS FOR YOU FUCKING N00B'S THAT WANT TO CHEAT TO WIN GO PLAY DMSP IF YOU ARE NEW TO CUBE!

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by makkE on 06/04/2005 15:36

I think he deverves a ban - look at his recent posts.

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#12: Re: hmm

by >driAn<. on 06/04/2005 15:45, refers to #10

jp: exactly, go and play DMSP.

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#13: Re: hmm

by jean pierre on 06/04/2005 16:23, refers to #12

Oh shuttup i like single player mode better!

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#14: Re: hmm

by jean pierre on 06/04/2005 16:27, refers to #13

Wait uhm i just did refresh i thaught this is Sauer topic/thread but i am right N00B'S often cheat and they deserve to train or better yet not touch the engine.

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by CC_machine on 06/04/2005 16:31

hoi

zooming isnt cheating, if it was why would people put it on quadropolis?

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by jean pierre on 06/04/2005 18:03, refers to #15

Simple CC-Machine becouse people want other to cheat and FOV is a cheat in Instagib

Did you ever heard of Camping?

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by CC_Machine2 on 06/04/2005 18:13

i totally agree with makkE (message #8) on using a simple fov spript to zoom in/out, and as for camping i dont know what you are talking about

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by jean pierre on 06/04/2005 18:26, refers to #17

What?

Camping is easy go hide behind a wall and then come out to see if someone is still and far and then do fov 0 and shoot him to him him easy

Thats camping.

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by tentus on 06/04/2005 21:12, refers to #18

that's also a viable tactic. it's cowardly, yes, but some people prefer to fight that way. don't tell me you've never jumped someone during a paintball match or Cube, while it can be annoying to those who get hit it also requires patience and planning from the camper.

Aard, in light of jean's comments on this thread, i'm gonna second makkE's request to have him banned. i know it's been considered before, but now i've had enough.

you know, i kinda hope i see someone use a flooded map when i'm playing, that could be fun. you moved so much slower when swimming, and i don't have any qualms about shooting upwards.

about the fog thing... i don't think there are enough maps with significant fogging for it to matter. usually you can still see the outline of distant enemies.

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by CC machine on 06/04/2005 22:10

i also think jean peirree should be banned he swears too much

i often use fog 1024 of pyramids map especially when im sniping from the high ledge

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