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CUBE IS AVAILABLE ON LIVE CD!

by samel on 10/05/2004 22:12, 38 messages, last message: 01/21/2005 11:10, 8012 views, last view: 05/16/2024 16:20

I think this is news that deserve it's own thread. After I read e:n:i:g:m:a's thread about wanting a live cd with cube on it I thought I make it easier for people who wants to know, not having to read al the replies hoping to find an answer.

Anyway, Linux Live Game Project (at http://tuxgamers.altervista.org/) has made a knoppix-based distro that includes many games (see http://tuxgamers.altervista.org/
llgp/games-0.0.1.php), including CUBE. I haven't tried it yet so I don't know how well it works, but how wonderful won't it be to bring a bunch of CDs to a LAN? =) FU Counter Strike...ehh..

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#1: neet.

by Pxtl on 10/05/2004 22:25

Arcade

imaze
Abuse SDL
Amphetamine
Armagetron
Atomic Tanks
bomberclone
Bugsquish
Bumprace
bzflag
Chromium
Circus Linux
Egoboo
Galaga
gl-117
Heroes (SDL version)
KAsteroids
KBounce
KFoulEggs
KGoldrunner
Kolf
KSirtet
KSmileTris
KSnakeRace
KSpaceDuel
KTron
lbreakout2
Mad Bomber
mangopeeler
mangoquest
Neverball
Neverputt
pinball
Powermanga
Starfighter
SuperTux
Thrust
Toppler
Trophy
Tux: A Quest for Herring
Tuxkart
TuxRacer
WING
X Abuse
Xboing
Xbreaky
Xkobo
XKoules
Xracer racing game
XScavenger
Xscorch
XSoldier
ZBlast
Avventura

Falcon's Eye
GGZ

GGZap
Completition Calendar
Fyrdman
Keepalive Control
KGGZ
KTicTacTux
ModSniffer
Giochi da tavolo

XBoard-ICS
Atlantik
GnuChess
GtkAtlantik
KBackgammon
KBlackBox
Kenolaba
KMahjongg
KReversi
KWin4
Muehle
Penguin Taipei
Shisen-Sho
Xboard
Giochi di carte

KPoker
Mah-jong
Penguin Canfield
Penguin Freecell
Penguin Golf
Penguin Solitaire
Penguin Thornq
PySol
Solitario
Tenente Skat
Xmahjongg
Xskat
Giochi per bambini

Uomo patata
Rompicapi

Codebreaker
Enigma
Gtans
Imemory
MirrorMagic
Penguin Mastermind
Penguin Merlin
Penguin Minesweeper
Penguin Pegged
Xjig
Sparatutto

Cube
Sport

CannonSmash
Foobiliard
Strategia

Freeciv
GNU Gaming Zone
Pingus - Enhanced Lemmings
Tattica e Strategia

Boson
Katomic
Kbattleship
KJumpingCube
Klickety
KLines
KMines
Konquest
KSokoban
SameGame
Tetris e affini

Cuyo
Frozen-bubble
LTris
Netris
Quadra






So, which of these are multiplayer besides Cube?

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#2: Dunno but..

by lilkitty on 10/05/2004 23:11

About time someone had half the mind to put this game on linux distro's this game pwns you all.

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#3: ..

by samel on 10/06/2004 19:37

well, the reason why I put up this thread was to tell everybody that CUBE was available on a live cd. it was just a bonus that there was other games. but pxtl, to answer your question. Many of them are multiplayer. But since I was talking about LAN I'll write down some networkgames

BZFlag
armagetron
xscorch
Atlantik
Xboard
xskat
Freeciv
Boson

that's what I found when I looked a little randomly, though I looked through most of them, but skipped some that sounded boring (didn't have time to check out all)

also when I was looking around I found a port to an old game (abuse) that I was playing when I was a kid. it's a really cool game! (even the port hasn't support for multiplayer mode yet)and i.e. boson is a strategy game with the feeling of C&C or starcraft so there are cool games on that dist.

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#4: Abuse is awesome but...

by Pxtl on 10/06/2004 22:41

The Abuse ports they have there are, I think, dead projects. The original DOS abuse was far superior to any ports, as it had IPX networking support through win9x, and ran much more quickly I found.

Still, sounds like Unix is stuck at the big three for free-software-original games, Cube, Armagetron, and BZFlag. I'm surprised they didn't include a nice sourceport based on a free gamelib - like Tenebrae (free Quake engine) + Open Quartz(free Quake content) or Legacy (free Doom engine) with FreeDoom (free Doom content).

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#5: Re: Abuse is awesome but...

by samel on 10/06/2004 22:50, refers to #4

to bad the project's dead. =(
well, they've only done llgp-0.0.1 and they want people to give tips about games to new releases.

open quartz and doom legacy was two of the 17 games I suggested.

it's in the LLGP > What do you think about LLGP 0.0.1? -topic

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#6: multiplayer

by the game engine dude on 10/07/2004 23:41

um... Frozen-bubble is multiplayer, and it pwns you ALL!

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#7: ..

by j.c.d.p.c. on 10/07/2004 23:52

d00d, frozen bubble is like if tetris was a shooter...

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#8: uhhh

by The Doctor on 10/09/2004 00:10

um...what do you mean by that? I'm very confused.

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#9: ..

by CK|Davros on 10/10/2004 00:58

Well everyone loooves shooters, and a shooter, combined with the amazing adictivness of tetris.... :-p

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#10: Re: ..

by pushplay on 10/10/2004 08:00, refers to #7

Frozen Bubble is a lot more like Puzzle Bobble if they ripped it off wholesale. Which they did. Puzzle Bobble was a quasi-sequel to Bubble Bobble, the greatest game ever made.

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#11: Yep.

by Pxtl on 10/10/2004 08:09

Well, that's typical for opensource world - all the best opensource products are bare-faced copies of retail material. OO.o, Wargus, KDE, hell - Aard may as well admit that Cube is Quake 1 with a kick-ass level editor... but in FPS games copying is normal so nobody notices.

The only really innovative mainstream opensource game I can think of is Armagetron.

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#12: well...

by Pxtl on 10/10/2004 08:10

that's not really innovative, to be honest, but its the only game I'd played by opensource coders where it didn't feel like a game I'd played - just a movie I'd watched.

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#13: Re: well...

by j.c.d.p.c. on 10/10/2004 13:36, refers to #12

i think its a rip of tron2.0, but i cant tell which game came out first.

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#14: Re: Yep.

by D.plomat on 10/10/2004 14:00, refers to #11

Often for games, but Cube isn't a copy of any commercial game. Sure it's an FPS, but FPS itself is a category of games with many different subcategories. And Cube/Sauer uses a totally different engine/approach than most FPS

For OOo, it comes from StarOffice which was a competitor to MS Office.

Same thing for Mozilla/Firefox, which comes from Netscape, which was far more advanced than IE at the time of the earlier IE versions.

IMHO there's no problem in "copying" features, as for the user point of view an innovative features quickly becomes a standard they rely on when they start using it, be it opensource copying commercial or vice-versa (and even opensource copying opensource, or commercial copying commercial)

...that can only benefit the user by providing him different alternatives to choose from.

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#15: Re: well...

by Pxtl on 10/10/2004 17:15, refers to #13

The Linux 3d tron games came out years and years before Tron 2.0.

And Cube, out of every FPS I've ever played, feels more like Quake 1 than any other.

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#16: Re: Yep.

by Aardappel_ on 10/11/2004 22:48, refers to #11

Well, in terms of games, it is better to have a good clone than a bad original idea. Frankly, game design is so amazingly hard, everyone thinks they can do it but nobody actually can.

So yes, Cube is derivative, but it was never mean't to be a clone of Quake 1. It was supposed to contain the best gameplay elements of FPSes I like (which happen to include Quake 1 and Doom 2 prominently), and some additional own ideas. Cube's gameplay works so well because it is an evolutionary advance on first person shooters, if I had made it into something entirely new it would probably have sucked.

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#17: ..

by sinsky on 10/12/2004 02:44

It's hard to tell if there's anything new. I think in the Cube docs you said something about Cube being a sport and judging from the happy penguin on the site you're obviously one of the winners in the free category. To ask more is to pretend to be a commercial champion, trying to play a team game all by yourself maybe. And that's just not possible (that's why it sucks) cause it's a 0-1 thing - you're either a person or a person in a team, you just can't be a team because teams have other persons in them.

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#18: Re: ..

by Aardappel_ on 10/13/2004 00:37, refers to #17

sorry, I don't follow what you're trying to say :)

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#19: Re: ..

by sinsky on 10/13/2004 01:05, refers to #18

Me neither :)

Well.. let's continue anyway. Imagine we have a stadium with a soccer game going on, but something is wrong - the number of players in each team varies (people come from the stands into the playground, players vanish into the air from time to time, etc.) What could be wrong with a game like that? As we can see (no doubt!), money is required to keep the constant number of players in a soccer game and people at the stands so that everything is in place until the game ends. Commercial software and soccer games make a lot more money than free software and tennis games.

Umm.. hope it sounds good :)

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#20: Cube on a livecd?

by e:n:i:g:m:a on 10/13/2004 04:10

Cube on a livecd? AWESOME!!!!!!

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