Low-end video cards compatible with Cube?

by Pxtl on 08/16/2004 16:03, 29 messages, last message: 09/21/2004 09:41, 20205 views, last view: 05/04/2024 16:56

Hey all, I'm looking for a new video board (I still use a tnt2 on a 2ghz machine) and I was wondering about recommendations. I'm looking to do this on the cheap. So far I'm leaning towards an ATI 9200 (yes, I know its not DX9 compatible) - but how good is the openGL compatibility on that board? Does it work with Cube?

Alternately, what about the old 9000 card? Ive seen all-in-wonder 9000s that come complete with TV capture card and PVR software, something I've been looking into, but I'm worried about using the older hardware. Problem is that I really can't afford to splurge for a 9600 like I'd want to use.

Any recommendations?

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#10: ..

by staffy99 on 08/17/2004 10:28

oops a 6800 le

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#11: Re: ..

by spentron on 08/17/2004 15:13, refers to #9

Well I stand corrected, although your own posting disagrees: search for sis and after this post the relevant results are #17 and 19.

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#12: ..

by staffy99 on 08/18/2004 08:20

-i found out that the sis graphics card is worthless. it won't run any game made after 2001.

-it is an sis video card. about the same a geforce 4.

-my new computer also has a cheap 64 mb integrated video card. in cube the sky doesn't show on any map (there are no error messages and the files are still there.) and the particle effects make big black squares.


....dodgy drivers.

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#13: well

by rtf on 08/18/2004 08:36

If it turns out bad I can just wait :P But performance outside of video isn't really the issue, it's an A64 system, and one of their newest boards. Most of the boards for A64 are identical outside of featuresets because of the on-core memory controller, but because I was getting an mATX myself I had a limited choice: there were the older first-generation chipsets of VIA and nV, which respectively had an ancient 3d IGP and no IGP at all, and then the slightly more recent SiS, which had a stronger integrated option.

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#14: ..

by staffy99 on 08/18/2004 08:48

yours should be a sis 760. this is what it says about it:
Ultra256 2D/3D Graphics DirectX 8.1 compliant; Pixel Shader ver. 1.3 supported.Flexible Design for Display memory Support UMA and LFB (local frame buffer) up to 128MB for display memory.

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#15: ..

by rtf on 08/19/2004 01:58

That's the one. :)

These are the benchmarks I found previously that led me to get it:
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2004/gigabyte/K8S760M/k8s760m-6.htm

It does OK in 3dmark2001 and Q3A, lousy in 3dmark2003. I think I'll be fine.

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#16: slow machine ???

by aLf on 08/22/2004 20:29

You guys are so lucky with your machines!
I am playing CUBE on: AMD K6 500MHz, 150 MBRAM and TNT2 on 32 MBRAM !!!

But I am going to buy my self a new machine: AMD64 on 3200+ (everything is in that range)

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#17: tested it on an integrated S3 card of a laptop

by D.plomat on 08/22/2004 22:29

with a 1GHz CPU

I was even surprised that this card has a -not good, but at least a- real OpenGL accelerated driver

...bad performance (10-15fps @800*600) and awful looking colors but at least playable, but not enough precision and too buggy (lines and some particles disappearing and such) to be used for mapping

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#18: Re: slow machine ???

by e:n:i:g:m:a on 08/26/2004 06:26, refers to #16

woah, I feel lucky...

AMD Athlon Thunderbird @ 1000 MHz, 256 MB SDRAM, ATI Radeon 9000 w/ 64 Mb DDR Ram...

My next PC is an AMD Athlon64 3000+ w/ AMD Radeon 9600 XT and either 512 or 1024 MB DDR SDRAM, but that is waaaay in the future...

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#19: Re: slow machine ???

by pushplay on 08/26/2004 07:38, refers to #18

It doesn't make sense to buy less than a gig of ram these days.

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#20: Re: slow machine ???

by staffy99 on 08/26/2004 08:19, refers to #18

if you want a new computer and have a monitor and all that and live in australia get one of these: http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/index.php?redir=http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/show_product_info.php?code=SYS-AM646800

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#21: Re: slow machine ???

by _Aardappel on 08/27/2004 00:46, refers to #18

why would anyone buy an A64 3000 with a 9600. That's like driving a ferrari with wooden wheels.

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#22: Canada

by innovati on 08/29/2004 02:36

Hey, are you ready for a shameless plug for my business?

Well, here it is. If you live in Canada, close to ontario, chack out www.innovatived.ca/store2

Also, if you want a "Gaming PC", I can get one of them for ya'.

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#23: Re: slow machine ???

by Savage on 09/01/2004 12:39, refers to #16

AMD K6-2+ 500 MHz, Riva TNT. I love LOD :)

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#24: Steppin' up

by Random Guest on 09/06/2004 22:15

I worked for five years with nothing more than a 566 Celeron w/ 4mb integrated graphics card and 256mb RAM. I pushed that little sucker to play games that a Celeron has no business playing. About a year ago, I added a used 32mb Geforce 2 and managed to grind my way through Halo.

Using nothing but that $200 POS, I could still whip most of my friends at UT2k3.

An awesome computer is not neccessary for a great game experience, but it certainly does help.

Of course, I'm writing this from my IBM Thinkpad T42 1.8GHz Pentium M w/ 512mb RAM and an ATI Radeon 9600 Mobile, which pulls about 170 more FPS than I'm used to at 1400x1050.

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#25: Done.

by Pxtl on 09/06/2004 23:53

Picked up a Radeon 9600 A-I-W so it'll double as a pvr. Came with the remote control too, all for only 190 Canuckistani rupees ($190 CAN).

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#26: ..

by lethedethius...2 on 09/20/2004 03:54

I recommend a Radeon 9550... Pro. Personally.... For now I'm probably going to FRY'S and getting an nVidia GeForceFX 5200 128MB.... IT's 49.99... I cant pass that up. :P

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#27: ..

by staffy2000 on 09/20/2004 06:30

i would recommend a 9500 pro 128 mb. it has 4 more pipelines than the 9600 or 9550, is based off the 9700 and although hard to find is really cheap and has good performance.

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#28: ..

by staffy2000 on 09/20/2004 09:44

btw the 9500 pro kicks the 9600 pro in the guts real good. search for "far cry""9500" or "doom 3""9500 pro" in google

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#29: heheh

by Grogan on 09/21/2004 09:41

I've been using Radeon cards under Linux for a while. Currently a cheap assed Sapphire Radeon 9200SE. Not the best, but it plays cube OK with the open source DRI. I'm not at all interested in ATI's proprietary drivers. I've tried them, they work a bit better but at too high a cost for me. It limits what kernels I can use, and generally pollutes.

A Radeon 7000 or 7500 on the other hand, work quite well with the open source drivers.

Now, to the funny part. I just tried an experiment. My old box that I use as a fileserver is a pentium2 running at 266 MHz with 256 RAM and an ATI Rage Fury Pro 32 Mb AGP card (the system has only AGP 1x at that). I wanted to see how cube would run. I've used that machine as a desktop not long ago, so it was pretty much set to go, with the exception of getting my SDL stuff in order.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that cube runs decently at 1024x768. I'm getting between 18 to 25 FPS (as reported during play). This is with the default settings in autoexec.cfg and the precompiled linux_client. I played a few maps, metl3 and mpsp1. It doesn't suck! I'm going to go back to that box and play some more :-)

Grogan

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