Dam Small Big Cube

by jcdpc on 05/02/2004 14:19, 49 messages, last message: 05/23/2004 04:17, 13646 views, last view: 05/18/2024 07:41

I left the "n" off so it a beaver home instead a curse word. Anyway DSBC (damn small big cube) is a project that D;plomat and I thought up. I'll collect the maps and maybe write an autorun script, but I need mappers to make absolutly sure that their site and every site they know of is on my list, because thats the list i'm collecting maps and stuff off of. The Cube part of big cube will likely be under 60mg ...
I'll do the Cube part of big cube (map collection, menu updates) as long as somelse can do the linux part. Also we need some little cds.

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#10: Re: ack! i have no idea what your talking about!

by jcdpc on 05/03/2004 12:22, refers to #9

thank you. :)

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#11: Re: Already have some 80mm CD's

by dcp on 05/03/2004 21:55, refers to #8

there are some applications, that can analyze and convert a MONOPHONIC audiosignal to MIDI. but at the moment it's impossible to convert complex audio material like complete songs to MIDI.

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#12: Re: Already have some 80mm CD's

by jcdpc on 05/03/2004 22:08, refers to #11

i read up on it, I heard that it's basically trying to convert played music to sheet music. and i have seen some convertors but they didn't give any samples, or any explanation of how they worked, so...
i'm working away on big cube, altough i have thought of a problem. what do i do with it when i'm done? It's too big to put on my site or to email to anyone...

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#13: another problem

by jcdpc on 05/04/2004 03:18

how many cds do you have? I figure there are about 50 cubers. (wanna know how i got that number?, yeah you do... I got 155 different visitors on my site, and I only told one person from school, and I know he didn't tell anyone, as he doesn't really have anyone to tell (poor guy), and , and i figure each cuber has about 3 different computers (between school and home) so thats 51 and 2/3's but since it's not nice to chop people into thirds (halfs are ok though) and I round down to 50. Not every cuber has been to my site, but most have, and not every cuber has 3 computers from which to log on, so it's not very accurate, but...)
BTW, i should have a nicer looking site shortly, >driAn< is helping me out a lot with this, so big thanks to him.

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#14: ..

by e:n:i:g:m:a on 05/04/2004 04:05

Well... you could just get someone to host an ISO image, have the cubers download it and...

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#15: ..

by staffy02 on 05/04/2004 09:08

put it on fileplanet for free.

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#16: Re: another problem

by makkE on 05/04/2004 11:06, refers to #13

there are much more than 50 cubers I believe, also some ppl have changing ip´s like me.. :)

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#17: One way to get a ballpark figure...

by e:n:i:g:m:a on 05/05/2004 04:55

Well one way to get some idea, is to look at the total number of downloads on the sourceforge site. Assume five downloads per person to include people that downloaded it multiple times or downloaded it and didn't play it. That makes something like 90, right?

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#18: Re: One way to get a ballpark figure...

by staffy02 on 05/05/2004 08:07, refers to #17

there are 158,169 total downloads over the last 210 days.

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#19: Re: One way to get a ballpark figure...

by jcdpc on 05/05/2004 12:28, refers to #18

i dont think there are 3,000 cubers. well there might be. I'd say that theres only about 50 cubers who post on the forum, but there's probably a lot more who just play the game and might not even know about it's powerfull mapping capabilities.

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#20: Re: One way to get a ballpark figure...

by D.plomat on 05/05/2004 13:46, refers to #19

I also sometime plays net games, i would say that on an average in net games, there is ~10% of regular players that are also active on the forum (assuming that ppl takes the same nick in games and on the forum, and they doesn't often change it)... seems reasonable to me... if 500 regular *internet* cubers *on public servers*, 3000 occasionnal is probably close to reality... about those who played cube 2-3 times, we can use the # of downloads and safely assume that only regular or occasionnal cubers have downloaded it more than one time so this is negligible compared to the #downloads it self. Then we should estimate what % of ppl downloading the game doesn't play it, doesn't manage to run it because bad hw or no OpenGL drivers, but even if we assume that only 50% ppl that downloaded it played it, there are still many ppl that knows Cube :)

...still deducing the # of cubers from the forum_ppl/inet_cubers ratio is probably very inaccurate and statistically incorrect because this doesn't take into account forum_ppl that don't play mp internet public games(*), in fact it's the (forum_ppl AND inet_cubers)/inet_cubers that i'm estimating...

* don't know if that is a large part...

About Google, Cube is now ranking up to #2 on google.fr :)
...looks like it takes much time to update their databases, as it's the wouter.fov120.com url here, not the www.cubeengine.com

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#21: ..

by e:n:i:g:m:a on 05/05/2004 20:08

>assuming that ppl takes the same nick in games and on the forum, and they doesn't often change it<

Well, I use a different nick all together when I'm playing on my computer (I don't play online except on passworded servers that I run)

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#22: redistribution

by Drakker_ on 05/05/2004 20:49

Don't forget that people can send the cube package to each others, it's quite small. I also shared it with other peoples in lan party who could have shared it with others. So sites also host it themselves for no apparent reason.

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#23: ..

by e:n:i:g:m:a on 05/05/2004 21:15

That's true too, but eventually everyone's gonna have to re-download it sooner or later.


Oh, an idea for DSBC, will a user be able to change the config? because everyone and their brother probably has different configurations. (like me, I use a modified version of pushplay's config).

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#24: Re: ..

by jcdpc on 05/05/2004 21:28, refers to #23

The current big cube's menu system has an option that looks a little like this
menuitem "Very high" "fpsrange 30 40; minlod 150"
menuitem "Medium" "fpsrange 35 45; minlod 120"
menuitem "Fast" "fpsrange 40 55; minlod 70"
menuitem "Very fast" "fpsrange 45 55; minlod 50"
i plan on making it so it changes all options and not just fpsrange and minlod. plus i will add more options to the autoexec menu for easy changing.
I heard rumors of a config file manager, but i've been asked not to talk about it. I will make everything as user-friendly as possible, but i'll still allow the player to tweak things independently. the hardest part to do of bigCube is going to be the menu system. it wont be as fancy as the current big cube, but i'll try...

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by e:n:i:g:m:a on 05/05/2004 22:11

You should add an extra couple of settings for extra extra quality (eg: fpsrange 40 60, minlod 250)

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#26: Re: One way to get a ballpark figure...

by Aardappel on 05/06/2004 02:30, refers to #18

From the current download rates, I would estimate there are around 400000 downloads of cube since its first release. It is indeed interesting that that only translates to like 50 or so "regulars" on this forum.

I am guessing 99% of those downloaders are people that somehow see it, download it, play it for 5 minutes, realize it has worse graphics than ut2004, delete it. That is ok, it is the natural way with pretty much any product, most people stay silent/lurking, its an exponential curve.

the awareness is much bigger though. Absolutely everyone I speak to has at least heard of it, most have tried it.

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#27: 404

by jcdpc on 05/09/2004 18:35

apparently cube-city. ubercuber, and cubeworld (which I think is ubercuber) are very big cube sites which are currently down. does anyone know if they'll be back up? because other than them I have all the maps.

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by e:n:i:g:m:a on 05/09/2004 19:15

erm...

They've been down for a long while now, I hope someone makes a new website with all their content...

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#29: Re: 404

by ph0ok on 05/09/2004 19:31, refers to #27

cube-city is dead.

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