Map Editing

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#4636: Re: .obj models look broken

by tempest on 01/03/2013 19:18, refers to #4634

Make sure the normals are pointing in the right direction (i.e. outwards).

Also, you might want to importing the OBJ into blender and see how it looks there. That could help finding the problem.

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#4637: ..

by Papriko on 01/19/2013 21:21

Are there any cloudboxes in the default files of Sauerbraten? I only saw SKYboxes and cloudLAYERS so far...

I know, skyboxes can be loaded like cloudboxes too, but even with alpha they don't really have a.... cloudy effect.

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#4638: Re: ..

by Quin on 01/20/2013 05:05, refers to #4637

skyboxes/clouds

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#4639: Re: ..

by Papriko on 01/20/2013 12:56, refers to #4638

Instead of giving a sarcastic comment about you not reading my posts, I'll simply repeat that I mean cloudboxes, not layers.

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#4640: Re: ..

by Quin on 01/20/2013 15:54, refers to #4639

I thought Sauerbraten had already "borrowed" these from us. I don't play/edit in Sauerbraten, and haven't for a long time, mostly because excessive amount of people who react like you do.

http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/redeclipse/browser/data/penguins

"kenon" is a nebula skybox by skiingpenguins, retuned for RE as a cloudbox (complete with alpha channel in the appropriate place). CC-BY-SA.

http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/redeclipse/browser/data/skyboxes

"clouds1" and "clouds2" are basic clouds, and "stars" is a complete map of the stars as seen from earth, with an alpha channel so it can be applied to any background. Also CC-BY-SA.

You can also make any skybox a cloudbox simply by modifying (checks source code) the "cloudalpha" variable ("cloudblend" in RE).

Maybe someone should make a (or update an old) map using one of these to give eihrul a reason to include them?

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#4641: Re: ..

by Papriko on 01/20/2013 15:59, refers to #4640

Soooo, none in the default files? Meh, okay....

Thanks for the links, though.

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#4642: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 01/21/2013 01:57, refers to #4640

There certainly are maps which use it Quin, yet not in the release.

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#4643: ..

by Papriko on 01/29/2013 17:18

Is there some kinda analog jumppad? I mean something that accelerates you differently strong, depending how fast you collide with it or which can be adjusted somehow, maybe through an SP trigger.

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#4644: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 01/29/2013 23:41, refers to #4643

That's just how an ordinary jumppad works. When you jump before actually colliding with the entity, you'll be launched further ad when you wouldn't jump.

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#4645: Re: ..

by Papriko on 01/30/2013 16:17, refers to #4644

That only works when you have a proper surface to jump below it. When you try that on a rapid slope, you are jumping forward, not up.

When the jumppad hovers you can entirely forget it.



I really meant that you can sorts-of adjust the jump height in a big range. Already tried elevators, but those don't launch you up (actually didn't expect that anyways).

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#4646: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 01/30/2013 18:56, refers to #4645

Already tried the combination of an elevator and a teledest with velocity on?

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#4647: Re: ..

by Papriko on 01/30/2013 21:32, refers to #4646

Not yet, good idea though. Have to fine-tune it, though. When I made the elevator too fast, it just passed through me and through the blockade (1 block at gridpower 4) I made.

Just tested it ingame. Sadly did not work out... The teledest had the third attribute set to 1. Speed was kept when I ran through the tele, but the elevator still didn't launch me.

Guess I have to improvise then. Had been nicer if I could adjust the initial launching speed, but it also works without I guess.
Too bad that Collect editions new physics made the construction of player launchers more complicated.

(lol, 7 multiplied by 1 is?)

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#4648: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 01/31/2013 09:43, refers to #4647

I still don't see what you actually want that can't be perfor.med with a jumppad

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#4649: Re: ..

by Papriko on 01/31/2013 13:57, refers to #4648

Acceleration which strongly variates and in the best case can be adjusted by the player on the fly.

For example as if you merged a jumppad's Z axis with a guislider, just without the need of edittoggling.

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#4650: Score Limit?

by Pyccna on 02/03/2013 18:22

Any chance there's a way to change a map's ffa, ctf, etc. score limit/time limit in the cfg? Part III of my SP series is a duel with a skill 300 bot & I want the game to end when either you or the bot is killed. Any chance there's a way this is possible?

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#4651: Re: Score Limit?

by Papriko on 02/03/2013 20:42, refers to #4650

Skill 300? You must be using a modded client. By default 101 is the very max skill.

Also, I think something like that is not so easy to realize. There are some trigger scripts which do stuff e.g. upon death, but I am not sure if they could be rewritten for bots.

I don't think that this whole thing could work out. The only modes without time limit are SP and DMSP and bots work in neither. Coop edit is another mode without time, but that's barely an option too.
And no, you can not influence the time spent on a map. You had to mod your client.

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#4652: Re: Score Limit?

by Pyccna on 02/03/2013 20:57, refers to #4651

Curses. :|
I guess the 300 skill reverts to 101 when the bot activates.

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#4653: Re: Score Limit?

by Quin on 02/04/2013 13:05, refers to #4652

Setting it to 300 would be bad when the time for the aiming interpolation scale is calculated as such: frametime/((101-skill)*10) = 25/-2980 = -0.00838926174496644295302013422819 (which basically means the bots would turn the wrong way).

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#4654: Re: Score Limit?

by suicizer01 on 02/04/2013 19:15, refers to #4653

The calculation seems incorrect?

frametime = 25
skill = 300

aiming interpolation scale = frametime/((101-skill)*10 = 25/((101-300)*10 = 25/(-199*10) = 25/-1990 = -0.01256

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#4655: Re: Score Limit?

by Pyccna on 02/04/2013 19:24, refers to #4654

Well whatever the case: Addbot 300, the bot never misses, and is constantly spinning around shooting everyone. I checked out addbot 101 and it does the same thing. (Not using modded version!)

Back to the original point, is it possible to script a game reset if the player dies during Sp? Like "if $playerkill = 1 [ sp [mapname] ]"
If possible, how would you write that?

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