help to Modify detect camping

by mikyvienne on 02/04/2013 13:03, 16 messages, last message: 03/19/2013 05:39, 1467 views, last view: 05/01/2024 17:22

Hi all
So we play on local serveur suckerserv on ICTF mode.
but i can't found a good conf to have less shoot before camping detect.
For this moment we are "ban" after 7 kill and i don't know when we have the message that we camping.
Can you tell me what are the param that i do change to have only 4 kill before camping ban and 3 kill before warning message ?
I'm sorry for my bad english...
Thank you for your help

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#1: ..

by Papriko on 02/04/2013 15:38

...what if the person just uses a combination of high skill and luck? Then you kick without reason.

The best solution would be a human looking at it.

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by Zamwa on 02/04/2013 16:17

That's going to be a game breaker for regular gamers! There's really no working solution other than active monitoring of the server!
I'm looking into have camping part of map layouts as diversity yet balanced for good gameplay on My map cycle!

Damn bot never sees trolley cart campers! :"P

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by Papriko on 02/04/2013 16:36

I am not sure how, but somehow they realized a quite effective and actually rather precise camper-protection for the LMS mode of Nexuiz...
And instead of kickbanning him, it just made *SPLORT* and he suicided with the message "Die Camper!".


Reading the code, understanding and finally translating it to Sauer may be quite tricky, though.
Nexuiz used to be free, but it seems like THQ bought it, so I guess you won't get the code anyways.

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#4: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 02/04/2013 18:27, refers to #3

There once were certain servers which told you to stop camping when your camera wasn't moving outside a certain angle (which is a quiet accurate way)...

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by degrave3 on 02/04/2013 18:34

I would like to ban all servers with that "feature" on master server.

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by baby~rabbit on 02/04/2013 21:45, refers to #5

Agreed, anti-camp servers irritate by adding extra arbitrary games rules.

If you don't like a camper, hows about just shooting them? (though personally I prefer coming up behind em and chainsawing them...)

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#7: Re: ..

by Papriko on 02/05/2013 15:15, refers to #6

Anti-camp-camping, that's really fun. You're basically camping too, but only hunt for campers.

Works pretty well on maps like venice.

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#8: Re: THQ buying Nexuiz

by Meigus on 02/08/2013 17:00, refers to #3

It was Illfonic, and they purchased a private license to the existing sourcecode, which was immediately forked and normal development continued under the Xonotic title. Illfonic owns no newer Nexuiz (now Xonotic) code, they were permitted to privately license the now-dated Nexuiz code and their additions, which they then proceeded to not use because they got a serious backlash from the community, mostly because they tried to obfuscate and not release the GPL code. I think the big issue, besides the 'owner' of the code doing no development in years, was that there were parts of the engine which were forced legally open (GPLv3 or equivalenet CC license), such as graphical assets or something, which were relicensed by the legally recognized owner.

The original Nexuiz code is still GPLv2 or LGPLv3, as is Xonotic.

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#9: Re: THQ buying Nexuiz

by Papriko on 02/08/2013 17:04, refers to #8

IDK, I just remembered that I played a few rounds Nexuiz ages ago and that it had a protection similar to the here desired one.

When I fed "nexuiz" to Google I came to some site with fat THQ logo.



(2 plus 2, aw, C'MON cubeengine.com...)

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#10: Anti-Camping Suggestion

by Pyccna on 03/15/2013 04:35

Just a suggestion, there is an old FPS out there that had a system that specifically detected campers and displayed a message onscreen saying "[playername] is hiding!" and slapped a waypoint on them. Maybe a programmer (not me!) could put something like that to detect if players don't move a certain distance in a given time span?

Just a suggestion!

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#11: Re: Anti-Camping Suggestion

by baby~rabbit on 03/17/2013 04:25, refers to #10

Well, that's a far better suggestion than the current kick/spectator mods. If it was ever added then I vote we also add the keyboard/waypoint icon above peoples heads when they're typing...

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#12: Re: Anti-Camping Suggestion

by Pyccna on 03/17/2013 06:51, refers to #11

Thanks, there's only one problem I can foresee happening with the camp-waypoint system: if you're playing CTF, Collect, or Capture & you're guarding the flag/base (bots like to do this) & you get slapped with a waypoint.

Although that could be solved with some sort of "safe zone" volume around the flag/base spawn entity...

If only I was a programmer :/

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#13: Re: Anti-Camping Suggestion

by Papriko on 03/17/2013 12:30, refers to #11

For that "keyboard/waypoint icon above peoples heads when they're typing":

When it is just an icon, the average player probably wouldn't give a darn and shoot anyways which makes it pretty useless.

When it adds some kinda protection which makes you immune to shots, it could be abused as semi-godmode. You can still adjust yaw and pitch with the mouse when you type. Just open the chat line and wait. Once a target shows, aim on it, smack enter and left mouse button after it.
You could even improve it when you make a short sleep which directly opens the chat line again, such as /bind MOUSE1 [attack; sleep 50 [saycommand]].

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#14: Re: Anti-Camping Suggestion

by Razgriz on 03/18/2013 08:57, refers to #11

not sure how this all would be possible without actually modding the client too?

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#15: Re: Anti-Camping Suggestion

by Papriko on 03/18/2013 13:09, refers to #14

It might work in some team modes which use waypoints anyways. Then the person is marked like a flag or skull carrier.

Might be confusing though and does not help in modes such as TDM.

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#16: Re: Anti-Camping Suggestion

by Pyccna on 03/19/2013 05:39, refers to #14

I think if it\'s possible to put it into the cfg files there could be camping maps and anti-camping maps so both sides would be happy.

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