Mac package updated

by eihrul on 08/18/2011 09:34, 10 messages, last message: 10/21/2011 23:54, 1903 views, last view: 05/02/2024 13:27

Just a heads-up...

So thanks to baby-rabbit, the Mac package has been updated to fix both the problem with Intel HD 3000 (Sandy Bridge IGP) graphics on newer Macs and should also fix the launcher not letting you specify command-line flags anymore.

If Justice is already working for you on Mac, there is no reason to download this updated version, but hopefully this will prevent further issues from occurring for new Mac users with Sandy Bridge hardware.

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#1: Newbie

by jAZZbASS on 10/21/2011 02:10

I am far too old really to begin computer games, added to which as a musical producer and musician I spend far too much time goggle-eyed on two screens. As I have a nine year old son who lovesplaying the multi-user Sauerbraten Justice ed' However, he has voiced extreme frustration at the number of people using aimbots, trigger bots wallhacks, giving the cheaters a ridiculous advantage. To see what he was talking about,I have been playing also the last few nights, and it is a lot of fun, but it's being totally ruined by people using hacked scripts. My feeling is that these scripts should be made available to everybody for a period of time. This would reduce the cheaters advantage and they would probably go elsewhere. They only do it to have some sort of unfair advantage, withut that advantage, we could all enjoy the game, particularly my son. We have a mac G5 quad (4 x 2.66 GHz) PPC with 12Gb cache and almost everything runs fine, athough when the server is busy the frame rate seems to drop and the picture/ feed becomes very erratic, even with a 50Mb cable connection.

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#2: Re: Newbie

by baby~rabbit on 10/21/2011 02:51, refers to #1

Hacks? I find in the majority of the cases these players are just better.
I suggest more practice until you're not a newbie.

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#3: Re: Newbie

by Razgriz on 10/21/2011 10:33, refers to #1

Not many hackers are around, and if one is found word gets around fast enough, especially on public servers. I won't comment about vaQ's Venice server though, i wouldn't want to check that one for hackers even if i was being paid to do so.

So unless you're 100% certain someone's really hacking, report him, preferably on #sauer-clans on irc.gamesure.net. You'll need an IRC client for that.

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#4: Re: Newbie

by jAZZbASS on 10/21/2011 12:00, refers to #2

I am sure a bit more practice for both me and my son would improve things, but on one of the Venice servers "more practice" will not stop me getting shot thru' walls, or shot from above when the enemy is flying around, sometimes, my shots even in zoom hit the target, but to no effect, and on some of the MU CTF games whenever I kill an opponent I am instantly killed even when there is nobody else in view or in the line of fire, trust me the people using hacks are spoiling it. I don't have an irc client, but there is plenty of evidence that hacks are being used, some of them even walk through the walls, clear enough. I don't really have a lot of time to play, but it seems such a good free game it's worth sorting out the problems, or giving everyoe the hacks (cheats) so that we all have a level playing field.

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#5: Logging In

by jAZZbASS on 10/21/2011 12:06

Please forgive my poor eyesight but I cannot see the login button on the Sauerbraten homepage, I had to renew my account today, can anybody point me at the login button ?

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#6: ..

by Papriko on 10/21/2011 16:04

To the hacking-part: there are really not many hackers around, I mean real hackers.
But I must admit you can use some tricks to get a few advantages. For example you can use commands such as /zoomfov to improve the zooming range.
Another commonly used trick is to modify maps. Every map is locally saved on your disc and upon mapchange it loads from there, not from the server. When you use now the ingame coop edit mode to add some extra paths with some special ammo here and there and afterwards you save the result... Well, then you got a modified map. Aiming is done client-side too, so you can shoot through those paths n windows while it stays a massive wall to your opponent(s).
Most servers use checksums or something like that to make sure nobody uses that kind of modification, but that takes a while and usually the battle already runs a bit when the server is done. It gives out a message like "Killmaster3000 is using a modified map!" but it easily gets lost in all the messages when like 20 people talk and frag like crazy.

In addition you do not need to make that public. They do not contain such tricks self, but you can read about all necessary pieces like commands and keys in the Docs. http://sauerbraten.org/README.html
The rest is up to your creativity. When you do it right you can make a few preventions against such people who use tricks.



For the login: in theory there should be a tiny link at the forum main page saying "login". Click it, log in and the rest is done with a permanent cookie that logs you in every time you get here again.



What I wonder... How did we get from "SB Mac Fix" to "I got problems with hackers"?

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#7: Re: ..

by Razgriz on 10/21/2011 16:21, refers to #6

Or he can stop playing on vaQ\'4 altogether. Venice sucks too much to have people complain about cheaters on it.

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#8: Hacks & Login...

by jAZZbASS on 10/21/2011 17:07

Thank you Papriko, thats helped a lot. I cant see any login on the board index or on the main forum start page, so have had to get another id request and paste it in.
I have no massive problem with vaQ\'4 not sure what you meant by it sucks to much to have complaints about it, I mean thats kind of why I complained, and why it sucks, because people cheat to much. Sorry if all this was posted on a mac thread, but could not find one to do with cheaters, aimbots or wall hacks. So an extra thanks for your patience.

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#9: Re: Hacks & Login...

by suicizer01 on 10/21/2011 17:26, refers to #8

I would suggest you not to play on a server which runs venice at a lot of players (like the vaq venice server).
Sauerbraten has way more to offer then such map, just check some other servers, even the ones which do not run instateam or instactf only.

I won't play at it anyways, since the map is pretty skill- and flowness anyways.

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#10: Re: Newbie

by Zamwa on 10/21/2011 23:54, refers to #1

There's always a cheater taking advantage of others who look to play the game fair! It's a real wounder why some modders look to just break free online games to a point of no return such as sharing there mods with friends who then will just share the mod with the world!

Automated sever management is abomination to detecting cheaters! Manually managing severs is important to do!

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