The next update

by legodt on 05/06/2011 01:24, 333 messages, last message: 10/18/2012 04:52, 145181 views, last view: 12/09/2021 01:11

What are the sort of things that the playerbase can expect from the next Sauerbraten update? Gamemodes, user interfaces, or graphical updates?

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#252: Re: New ideas:

by Zorg on 04/04/2012 22:17, refers to #251

I) You publish those those things for the few people who know about quadropolis and of those for the very few who are experienced enough to actually use it. This does not help 95% of the players out there.

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#253: ..

by Honzik1 on 04/04/2012 22:49

+1 to Zorg

In the same way Razgriz and suicizer01 refused my idea about adding favourite-server list TAB in server broswer. They answered me something like "I should find script on the quadropolis"

Their opinion probably is: Download the milion "plugins" from quadropolis and Sauerbraten becomes comfortable game....

My opinion is: Some useful things should be as default feature in the game and not just like a plugin somewhere.

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#254: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 04/04/2012 23:39, refers to #253

Too bad our beloved developer isn't sharing the same vision as that Honzik1.
So the only option left is: add your own features, as long as they are legal.
Those prefabs are not some kind of plugins, neither some kind of tutorials. They are just to show off what certain command does, with some explanation about it. Nothing more actually.

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#255: Re: ..

by Bosurgi725 on 04/05/2012 04:34, refers to #253

Feel free to start from scratch with whatever YOUR vision is for a game. Then incorporate all the features YOU think YOUR game should have.

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#256: Re: ..

by Razgriz on 04/05/2012 06:42, refers to #253

Such a mysterious reason why the devs don't want to follow everyone's dreams of the same game.
I guess this feels kinda like firefox, with its "millions of plugins" one needs in order to be comfortable.

Jee, what a harsh and cruel world. Really!

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#257: ..

by Razgriz on 04/05/2012 06:55

Sigh.. point is, we all want certain things to become part of the game, not only you honzik.
The game has cubescript for users to create the kind of stuff they'd like to have, be it a client management panel, or a favorite servers one.
Such stuff usually get uploaded to Quadropolis, and i say usually because there are also a few other scripters who have had some great ideas but never shared them on there, that being both thomas and srbs.

Perhaps you don't realise that eihrul is the one working on Sauer, and he doesn't necessarily share your vision of it. So do both of you a favor and use a script if it can be done through that, it's not as hard as you make it seem.

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#258: ..

by Zorg on 04/05/2012 15:25

The thing is: Yes, there are scripts and mods out there. And you guys can use them easily, and so can e.g. Honzik.

Now if there are things every longterm/pro/commited player uses, I think it must be ok to ask for them being added by default (not demand, just ask), without being "shut down" by a very small minority of active coders and scripters who might well already use some of the discussed features.

I don't see why you need to jump in here and basically say this is all unnecessary, because it's already on quadropolis. Just let eihrul decide for himself.

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#259: Re: ..

by Razgriz on 04/05/2012 19:36, refers to #258

I'm not rendering it all unnecessary because it can be found in quadropolis, but because i know first hand how hardened eihrul is when it comes to feature requests, i've been rejected more times than i can remember, even for things that do make sense and would actually be a good addition.

The most i get out of it is mainly fixes for things that got broken along the way or i unintentionally broke when experimenting.

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#260: Suggestion

by Windecker on 04/08/2012 15:59

We need an Upload Percentage for when sending large maps.

I am on a horrible connection and have no way to tell how much longer until my map is fully sent, so a percentage readout would really ease the pain.

I can take about four minutes to send a large map some days with my upload speed. >.>

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#261: Re: Suggestion

by suicizer01 on 04/08/2012 17:13, refers to #260

Is that a problem on Sauerbraten, or an actual personal problem?

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#262: Re: Suggestion

by Redon on 04/08/2012 18:20, refers to #261

What are you talking about? His suggestion is not about the upload speed, but an indicator that shows how much longer it'll take to upload the map, in form of a progression bar. Obviously, Sauer can't make your internet faster, but it could do you the favor not to leave you clueless if you're uploading a giant map on a slow connection.

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#263: Re: Suggestion

by Redon on 04/08/2012 18:21, refers to #262

*not necessarily a progression bar, just some.. "progression-indicator". Just don't go with "x seconds remaining"

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#264: Re: Suggestion

by Windecker on 04/08/2012 18:59, refers to #263

I just want something that says "Sending map - 51%"

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#265: Re: Suggestion

by Papriko on 04/08/2012 23:50, refers to #264

Another nice thing would be some way to limit the bandwidth that gets used for sendmap and getmap.
Sometimes do servers disconnect you because they assume you spontaneously died, but in fact you are just sending a huge map.

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#266: Re: Suggestion

by suicizer01 on 04/09/2012 02:37, refers to #265

In other words, the whole sendmap/getmap system should be overhauled if eihrul were asking both of you (I know you haven't said that, but in the end, that probably would be the result).

People start to forget Sauerbraten is meant to be for small efficient arena maps, not RPG-sized maps which also carry tons of tiny details.

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#267: Re: Suggestion

by suicizer01 on 04/09/2012 02:41, refers to #264

/echo "Sending map - 51%"

There ya go.

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#268: Re: Suggestion

by Windecker on 04/09/2012 05:12, refers to #267

Wow, Thank you Suicizer01!

You sure are helpful.

What would I ever do without you?

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I have no clue how a progress percentage would count as a complete overhaul.

As for the disconnect thing, just have the client say to the server, "Excuse me server, I am sending a map. During this time I may be unable to respond to your futile requests, so please, have patience."

And then have the server respond in a timely manor with, "Ok client, I will do this for you because you are amazing, like me."

And they will live happily ever after.

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#269: Re: Suggestion

by Zamwa on 04/09/2012 06:15, refers to #268

"What would I ever do without you?"

I'm sure hell would freeze over! ^_^

http://dogandponyshowwebsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Ip6ni.jpg

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#270: ability to fly

by TheLove on 04/09/2012 23:54

one of my dream is flying inside sauer, legit way,
i really dream about that i've F-16 in face-capture and throw some missiles at top-campers, imagine it people, please eihrul think about this

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#271: Re: ability to fly

by Bosurgi725 on 04/10/2012 04:13, refers to #270

You do realize that an F-16 on face capture would be flying fast out of the map long before it would be able to target something as small as a camper on the top. Just saying.

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