The next update

by legodt on 05/06/2011 01:24, 333 messages, last message: 10/18/2012 04:52, 145213 views, last view: 12/09/2021 02:33

What are the sort of things that the playerbase can expect from the next Sauerbraten update? Gamemodes, user interfaces, or graphical updates?

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#225: ..

by Papriko on 02/14/2012 20:13

6. Kick is still abused often enough and pause would be fascinating because of the fact that most noobs don't have admin and so don't know it, so it seems like something new and amazing that has to be tested how far it can be used to be "funny" (read: how big the abuse factor is).

10. And again... what is so hard about downloading a simple file and write a single line into your autoexec?
Additionally they can't include every single script that seems to be useful to a bunch of people. Do you have an idea how huge the pack of configs would become? Simply download and install it when you need it.

11. Can you think of people who A) are good enough to judge maps properly and B) have enough time to actually do it?
And one or two people wouldn't be enough. You'd need an entire group of such people. Happy searching.
Btw: every map on Quadro might become a new official map when it gets enough likes.

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#226: ..

by Honzik1 on 02/14/2012 20:32

Papriko:
10) I realy not going to search for these scripts somewhere and I am not happy to setup them. Not skilled people should have chance to add their favourite servers, you dont think so?

11) people can upload their maps on quadropolis like now, just eihrul will choose good rated maps and game client will download oficial update. Map will become faster played, not in 1.5-years releases like now...

new:
12) Actual map vote polls should be placed on scoreboard, people should see poll standings. Now map votes are invisible, why?

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#227: ..

by Papriko on 02/14/2012 20:36

10. Hell, tell me where you need skill for! Download file, throw it into the main folder, open the autoexec and enter "exec downloadedfilename.cfg" basta. Start up the game and you got your favorite server list.

11. I am sure he has better things to do than checking every single map. As I said, you have to look for a bunch of people who have the nerves to do that.

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#228: ..

by Honzik1 on 02/14/2012 20:45

Papriko:
10) There are still many people who dont know how to open autoexec by notepad and also they would like to have favourite servers somewhere. Why there is ZOOM in game by default then? Everyone can download one in a milion versions of zoom scripts from quadropolis...

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#229: Re: ..

by Razgriz on 02/14/2012 20:52, refers to #228

Honzik; your excuses for being lazy for one god forsaken script are lame, get real. The zoom was always there.

Zoom scripts on the other hand add a GUI and expose FUNCTIONS you had not SEEN BEFORE to make your EXPERIENCE even BETTER, and provide GREATER USABILITY.

So please, cut the "protect the poor noobs" act over a simple text edit. It's ridiculous.

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#230: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 02/15/2012 06:13, refers to #224

1) Would make the masterserver gui very chaotic to add such options to it.

2) I dislike the idea of showing my country actually, as it's an attack on your personal information. That's why I also dislike CSL...

3) Would be nice, but it's a very old idea. As someone stated before, get more clans to have such priority.

4) Of all things you called, this is 1 of my favourite. My solution is: when you kill someone, he drops a skull. To earn the frag, just pick up that certain skull.

5) Would be nice, but why would you disconnect anyways?

6) I also prefer this, just the reason you already told...

7) Razgriz already stated something about that...

8) I know it would be nice, still I doubt eihrul would implement it.

9) That actually matters only for clanwars and such, as on public servers it's even pretty nice to see some draws are capture for example.

10) They invented quadropolis for that. Also, that would occur only a few server would be visited, while the rest wouldn't be able to compete with those, so always the same servers will be full even faster and even more times.

11) ... You really should do some investigation on scripting before asking such thing.

12) You gonna make it for us or what?

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#231: ..

by Honzik1 on 02/15/2012 10:21

suicizer01:
5) People often disconnect for many reasons, also they switch team for many reasons. Team Score (total frags) should stay same also if someone disconnect or switch......switched player starts from 0 for his new team. Understand?
11) Update was possible in SauerEnhanced, well, not update of maps, but new client was automaticaly downloaded. Why not to do same thing with the maps?
12)No, but I think it could be not hard to put poll under scoreboard something looks like:
iCTF: Face-Capture(5), Reissen(3), Tejen(1)
I think its already implemented like this but it is just not visible right?

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#232: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 02/15/2012 19:19, refers to #231

12) I'm pretty sure it's not just a piece of cake to implement such thing, while I have almost zero experience with it.
Here some things which could make it tougher then it looks:
- Position of gui; it would be very irritating if it would appear right in the middle of your screen when being in combat. (and because of that, some new guitab should be made, else it probably won't fit).
- It shouldn't appear every time someone spams a vote, as it would just kill the match which is being played in the time the poll is getting announced.
I'm pretty sure there are more things which would make it harder than it looks, but don't got time for that now.

I'm pretty sure the servers of nooblounge already have something similar as that, but just textual (which brings us to the next question, why would you actually have a separate gui for it while it can also be done textual?), they often fail called the right maps though (like "Vote for Reissen(1) or Reissen(2)", which you should press "1" or "2")...

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#233: Feature request

by aiueo on 03/28/2012 04:39

1. Color filters. Controlled by "/texfilter" and "/vfilter" commands. Takes texcolor value as filter color.
2. Local grassheight variable. Reedmace or corn are taller than the usual grass.

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#234: Re: ..

by ultrasemen on 03/30/2012 19:35, refers to #31

Maybe make killcams with demos?
Look.
Server parameters are, I dunno, /killcam x and /respawntime y.
X is time of killcam, y is respawn delay. If x is less than y, after killcam there is normal score table, if y is less than x you can respawn not watching the rest of the killcam.
For any player demo is always recording (and parts that are older than x are always deleting), when he kills someone last part of demo is cut and send to player who is killed, and showed to him with playing demo function.
Is this real?

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#235: ..

by Razgriz on 03/30/2012 19:38

There is no way to adjust the respawn delay. And there are no killcams.

Plus, sane people prefer watching where their enemies are going while dead instead of watching a video loopback.

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#236: Re: ..

by Darkwiz666 on 03/30/2012 21:40, refers to #235

I don't see how (or WHY) the ability to change how quickly a player spawns can't be manipulated with scripting...

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#237: Re: ..

by ultrasemen on 03/30/2012 22:00, refers to #235

>Plus, sane people prefer watching where their enemies are going while dead instead of watching a video loopback.
Killcams are fun. Why would you watch enemy playing after he killed you? Maybe only if you enjoy that he dies shortly after he killed you. And killcams are really useful:
1. They help noobs to learn how to play.
2. They help to detect cheaters to voteban them after.
3. They let you see if someone's camping, although I think this is bad because I like camping and respect it as important part of gameplay (not in sauer, but in other games).

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#238: Re: ..

by baby~rabbit on 03/31/2012 00:43, refers to #237

"Why would you watch enemy playing after he killed you?"

because when you respawn you want to know where the b*stard was camping from so you can hunt them down and take them from behind.

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#239: Re: ..

by ultrasemen on 03/31/2012 01:40, refers to #238

But killcam is still more useful for watching campers.

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#240: Re: ..

by Razgriz on 03/31/2012 09:12, refers to #239

Not really, unless you're freaking blind and cannot see a rifle smoke trail.

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#241: Re: ..

by Zamwa on 03/31/2012 17:45, refers to #239

After reading Baby~rabbit's comment I suddenly don't like killcam idea!

Tent,campfire,marshmallows,sniper rifle all set! XD

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#242: Re: ..

by ultrasemen on 03/31/2012 18:48, refers to #241

Yeah, I don't really like it too, just played on that crazy instagib venice server, hiding on roofs and shooting everyone down there, and thought it would be really bad if admins will enable killcam.
But on noob fun servers... Sometimes... Why not. Noobs would be pleasured.

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#243: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 04/01/2012 12:36, refers to #235

Someone once made a killcam-mod, but it's not advisable to download it, as it isn't correctly licensed to Sauerbraten and also spamming an advertisement to other players while connecting on the server (which you can't see when your using the mod).

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#244: Re: ..

by suicizer01 on 04/01/2012 12:38, refers to #242

VAQ Venice is actually the biggest noob server...

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