spawn killers are no fun

by Giszmo on 04/03/2011 15:37, 46 messages, last message: 06/07/2011 00:56, 17250 views, last view: 12/09/2021 04:25

Hi,

I love Sauerbraten and play a lot recently. Venice, instagib with 20 players at least but spawn killers somehow take all the fun of it. Neither is it fun to get killed 2ms after spawning nore is it fun to kill those bastards as they stand still staring at a spawn point nore is it fun to follow this strategy myself knowing how frustrating it is for the spawners.

I have some suggestions to make this more interesting:

#1: Spawn points get a team-dependent spawn penalty cool down depending on how fast players of a team die there so red players spawn where there are no blue spawn campers.
To be more precise: If a red player gets killed within the first second after spawning (dt<1), the spawn point will get a penalty cool down:
pcd=now()+(1-dt)*20s
so red players only spawn there if no spawn point's penalty is smaller than now().

#2: When spawning, the player can move for 500ms without shooting and without getting shot. This would work with all maps as they are now. This feature could be optional.

#3: Give more frags for chainsaw kills. At most spawn points it is easy to kill spawn killers with the chain saw. If a chain saw kill would steal an extra frag from the hit player, it would be more vital to watch one's back and spawn killers would score less, making it even more boring.

#4: Many more spawn points. This would involve changing maps, thus rendering a no-option but still venice with 100 spawn points would render spawn camping pretty senseless.

Regards,

Giszmo

P.S.: This forum is chaotic. If I would find my way around, I would probably have posted this in the "game mechanics" section but I didn't find any order here so sorry for "cluttering" if this is not the place to post this suggestion. :(

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#42: Re: ..

by |ice|sub-zero|L on 04/23/2011 19:47, refers to #41

2r, its been a long time since i have been able to hear some rationality on this forum, thanks for being another person who hates that map, my younger brothers xmanlx, and luke love the map and say its cool, but they are both skilless noobs, and even after a 30+ min argument over why VAQ4 is bad, and why the map is shit, i still can't get through to them.

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#43: ..

by Zamwa on 06/06/2011 12:21

In instakill mode I get into My sniping spot (usually furthest position from a spawn point) and zoom in lock on the targets using only one shot per target (a hunderd bullets ain't enough) and then unleash a blood bath never seen before by gamers!
The enemies clear the sever's just like in hoolywood major hit movies total spawnage >:")! The tough one's to score on are the one's that team up and gang up to pwn snipers!
Campers are true snipers hidden but lethal!

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by Razgriz on 06/06/2011 18:19, refers to #43

you confuse the term sniper and camper. snipers sit at selected spots until their position is given away or when they've been discovered by chance.

campers sit on random spots, for whatever amount of time, do not even try to run, and are having more successes than snipers because they hide in places one would not expect a smart person to be, and thus people run past them many times before they remember to look nearby the spot they were killed at.

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#45: Re: ..

by Zamwa on 06/06/2011 22:33, refers to #44

You are right the term is too identical! ;")

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#46: ..

by Razgriz on 06/07/2011 00:56

You can also say, if it suits you, that snipers are professional campers. ^_^

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