Any OSX 10.3 users?

by baby~rabbit on 02/06/2010 11:04, 17 messages, last message: 02/14/2010 11:15, 1451 views, last view: 04/30/2024 09:32, closed on 02/14/2010 14:50

Do we still have any osx 10.3 users of sauerbraten?

If the answer it no, then we can consider moving to a more recent version of SDL and thus provide 64bit builds, but that will means that osx 10.4 will be the minimum required.

Any objections?

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by Razgriz on 02/06/2010 12:46

a question only: will 64bit builds do any better than the current general builds of sauer on windows? like increased performance etc?

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by baby~rabbit on 02/06/2010 13:59

The objective of moving to the modern version of SDL is primarily bug fixes and avoiding what have become deprecated apis.

64bit is a bonus, and I have not benchmarked it - in truth it will only be available in snow leopard or better, at that point you have a relatively modern mac and the most likely thing holding back performance is the graphics card.

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by Razgriz on 02/06/2010 14:22, refers to #2

that means no 64bit bins for windows users? the whole point is to update the SDL for better performance on macs?

i don't get it >.<

anyway, bug fixes are welcome, so even if we get nothing new on windows, its still better to know that there are fewer bugs then before >.>

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by Nixot on 02/06/2010 18:10

It's mac users getting revenge on Windows users only providing Windows binaries of Sauerbraten mods by only providing Mac binaries of Sauerbraten with updated SDL :P

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#5: Apple thread - keep it on topic!

by baby~rabbit on 02/06/2010 20:47

I only speak for development/support of the OSX side, and this issue of backward compatibility and dropping support of 10.3 users only affects mac users xD

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#6: Yeah, But Go Ahead

by LeftClicker on 02/06/2010 21:15

Yeah, I have two computers running Mac OS X 10.3.9, but they probably won't be able to run the next version anyway. One of them is a 400 MHz Cube Mac desktop (I swear, it's the name of the computer!) and crashes on Sauer launch unless I lower every setting, so I just use Cube 1, and the other is an iBook G4 laptop from circa '04. It runs Sauer fine but I don't use it often anyway. Even if I can't upgrade and there won't be anyone online, I'll still use it for editing offline.
Summary: I have two 10.3 Macs but they don't run Sauer fast enough for me to care. Go ahead.

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#7: Yup

by fispaul on 02/06/2010 21:43

Fine with me, too. I have a 1 and a half year old iMac, pretty average computer running the latest Snow Leopard 10.6.2 etc.

So yeah, also here, go ahead.

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by tetrismaster512@anothercompy on 02/10/2010 03:54

No, I do not use 10.3 anymore, I have since upgraded to 10.4. So as long as I can at least compile it on a PowerPC G4 on 10.4.11 I will be happy. :)

PS who remembers me?

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by Nixot on 02/11/2010 18:41

Could you make the player's view bank when you rub the magic mouse wiv two fingers? Then I MIGHT just get a mac.

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#10: Re: Nixot

by LeftClicker on 02/12/2010 01:59

When you say bank, you mean that if I scroll up it's as if I just moved my mouse to the left? What's the point? Or was that whole post a joke?

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by HELL-O on 02/13/2010 05:04

this mac is past 10.4 and i'm just about trashing it so i guess i'd be happy with the upgrade

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#12: Re: Nixot

by Nixot on 02/13/2010 14:07, refers to #10

No I mean when you rub the magic mouse left with two fingers, he leans left, and if you rub the magic mouse right with two fingers, he leans right.

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#13: Re: Nixot

by baby~rabbit on 02/13/2010 21:50, refers to #12

Go take this up with the SDL team, multifinger gestures, i.e. multitouch is on the roadmap, but there is no timeline: http://wiki.libsdl.org/moin.cgi/Roadmap#Multi-touch_Input

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#14: Re: Nixot

by Quin on 02/14/2010 03:51, refers to #13

Yeah, like SDL 2.0 has been on the agenda.. for, like, forever.

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#15: @Nixot:

by LeftClicker on 02/14/2010 07:32

Lean? Does Sauer even *allow* leaning? Do you mean his field of vision tilts?

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#16: Re: @Nixot:

by SheeEttin on 02/14/2010 09:07, refers to #15

There is no leaning, no. (One might argue that "it's not balanced for lean", but I probably shouldn't say that. ;))

You can, however, observe the effects of the variable maxroll, do some quick source hacking to roll on command, and pretend you're leaning. :P

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by baby~rabbit on 02/14/2010 11:15

Since no one whimpered about the loss of 10.3 and now the thread is totally off topic, we might as well close it.

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