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Banning on map FC3

by TomCat39 on 12/14/2008 19:06, 22 messages, last message: 02/15/2010 02:01, 4644 views, last view: 05/03/2024 04:21, closed on 02/15/2010 02:49

I was playing Regen Capture on FC3 and got spawned on the outside wall. I see it happen from time to time and I take it as part of the game play and adjust tactics accordingly.

Since I broadcasted it, some player basically implied that playing within the game dynamics that were given and that not suiciding and continuing to work the rockets was "cheap". A short while later, Satan popped in, heard and essentially hollered, EXPLOIT and banned me.

I just chuckled, thought, scrub mentality and went to bed. Please read the article to understand what I mean by scrub mentality. It's not my phrase, just using it accordingly.

In game I wasn't really able to explain the "Play To Win" philosophy from playing fighting games. And FPS is just another fighting game with a different interface.

Someone published online a book about how people (scrubs) tend to beat themselves before they even begin play. I decided long ago, that I wasn't going to be one and started learning how to play to win.

The free online book can be read here:http://www.sirlin.net/ptw

I haven't read the whole thing but I've read enough to understand that almost everything in a game that can be done is legal game play with only a very small percentage of exceptions. Usually game breaking bugs.

He does a nice write up of what should be bannable:http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/what-should-be-banned.html

Here is the synopsis of it all, the original article that created the huge buzz in most gaming circles:http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html
It's the short read with all the main points.

The larger book expands on all the points.

Anyways, you the community and developers decide. I just wanted to share my learned knowledge on gaming philosophy and why most people fail before they even try.

To me it's a part of the game and when it occur's it just changes tactics.

The only thing I would change is I would change the hill right by the rockets to not have the notch that allows the player to be fairly far from the wall yet still activate the rockets. Make the hill continually slide the player to the wall in all areas around the rocket. Currently there is a little pocket that allows the player to step away from the wall while still activation the rockets. Not sure if the explosion damage reaches them.

Getting back to the strategy changes, when that tactic is used. You can usually kill the person if you can plant enough grenades in the right position. (tough but doable [good player tactic]). Also, if the camper goes up the hill to shoot rockets at the rifle or shotgun or machine gun points, they are open to being shot with rifle or handgun and once again being killed.

And lastly, a team that is against an outside wall camper can turn around and gain and maintain hold of the other three and continually harass rockets and win by majority. Rockets does NOT guarantee winning a map. There have been many a game that the rocket holders were the losers.

So once again, the scrub says cheap, I say it's part of the game and change my thinking on how to better myself to overcome it. How do I beat it. It happens, so it is part of the game.

No one calls foul when you spawn below the map and fall to your second death, giving the other team even more time with more players, but they sure call foul when you spawn outside the building. Instead of trying to become a better player and figuring out how to counter.

At least I got to go to bed with a smile last night. It's funny how people think.

Ciao

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by TomCat39 on 12/14/2008 23:14

Quite contrary I didn't just sit there. I consistently ran up the hill and fragged people at the shotgun space (owned by red) and the machine gun spawn (also owned by red).

I only ran back down to either refill or to prevent red from taking over. And no one even attempted planting grenades against the wall to kill me. I was surprised no one even tried to kill me not even when I was high up on the hill spamming the shot gun and machine gun spawns with rockets.

Instead they did the scrub mentality and said "lame", "sucks", basically cheap. Thus already admitting defeat before the game is over instead of creative thinking (playing to win). It's funny you even say another legit tactic of "sniping" is lame/cheap. Total scrub argument. I find this so amusing.

As for place for the post, figured it was more of a general thread. Not a server specific thread being the map is part of the game and can be on any server. And the topic is for everyone, not just a single clan.