Halo-like maps?

by tman_elite on 12/01/2007 06:21, 104 messages, last message: 09/03/2022 15:41, 60907 views, last view: 05/18/2024 15:46

I was just wondering, wouldn't it be cool if some people made some maps similar to those from Halo 2 and Halo 3? For example, I think a level like Valhalla from Halo 3 would be really cool. Also a map like Lockout from Halo 2 would be sweet. There's a whole bunch of Halo maps that would make great Sauer maps.

I'd try to do it, but I would fail miserably. I suck at mapping stuff...

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by James007 on 02/17/2008 21:13

yes, halo3 is god. let us all bow down to it in its eternal glory. i cant wait for halo4, god knows the game has been dragged out enough.

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by enigma_0Z on 02/17/2008 21:15, refers to #71

LOL. thanks, that was very necessary.

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by James007 on 02/18/2008 18:41

haha, i hope so ;)

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by tman_elite on 02/20/2008 20:59, refers to #68

ATIRULE, if you don't like it then just don't read it and don't post. It's that simple.

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by Hirato Kirata on 02/21/2008 15:37, refers to #74

Many of us despise Microsoft (and don't give me that smeg about bungie creating it) with a passion. and most, like me, consider ANYTHING Microsoft made money from to be something of the purest evil in existence.

regardless of the above, I think it's a bad idea as well. specially considering how determined Microsoft is to protect whatever IPs (intellectual property, not internet proxy) it has, and doesn't, and I'm certain bungie will probably do the same (there was a halowars mod for C&C generals that was shut down due to a M$ lawsuit)

Also I was talking to various members of w00p today. They were complaining quite a lot over hue terrible and slow halo is, and how little of a chance they'd actually stand against them in AC or sauer. which had something to do with you getting a frag every 3 seconds at most, mostly as someone camped. while in sauer you can get frags every second or less.

While I do realise I've been squandering on, I still think it's a bad idea if this ever comes to fruition.

and if you couldn't tell I'm one of the many who hate halo, and consider it to be a complete piece of smeg, just another shoot em up FPS for the xbox's collection of 75%+ FPS games.

~Hirato Kirata

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by tman_elite on 02/21/2008 21:12, refers to #75

I get it, you guys don't like halo.

This isn't about the game. It's about the maps.

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by James007 on 02/21/2008 21:22

yes its about the maps, and Microsoft can come after you about that. The lawsuits mentioned above explained that.

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by demosthenes on 02/21/2008 21:31, refers to #77

There will be strong similarities in the geometry and perhaps even the texturing, but it's not the *same* map...

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by tman_elite on 02/21/2008 22:06, refers to #78

Exactly. I'm not saying we should copy halo, or even make exact copies of its maps, but you can't own an idea, so if you want to make a map that "resembles" or "uses concepts" from some of the maps in the halo games, they can't do much to stop you.

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by SheeEttin on 02/21/2008 22:45, refers to #79

You've never been sued by a company like Microsoft, then.

But yeah, I don't think they'd mind Halo maps being replicated in Sauer.

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by MovingTarget on 02/21/2008 23:39, refers to #80

Microsoft would probably revel in the glory of it's maps being copied...

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by demosthenes on 02/22/2008 06:41, refers to #81

For three seconds, before suing the pants off of everyone involved.

Mike Rowe Soft, anyone?

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by Passa on 02/22/2008 15:24

It is true a cease and desist letter was sent to the team developing a Halo mod for C&C Generals, however this was due to the announcement of Halo Wars (the Halo RTS being developed by Ensemble Studios).

Halo related 'creations' are if anything, encouraged. Look at Halo Zero for a fine example (promoted in Bungie weekly updates once upon a time too). And Bungie FYI are not even owned by Microsoft anymore (granted, the Halo IP is owned my MS).

This topic is about remaking Halo maps for Sauerbraten, not a discussion on about if you think Halo is overrated. A discussion about that doesn't work on this board anyway since at least 50% of you are furious anti Microsoft folks (also I think it's rather petty Hirato to actively force yourself to hate everything Microsoft have touched).

Also in my defence, as many of you know I'm a fan of the Halo series, I played through the first game without any knowledge of the hype associated with it. I enjoyed it immensely it's now one of my favourite games of all time (behind Chrono Trigger + Cross). All 3 games in the series have received universal praise for a reason. Think about it for a second - what would you think of Halo if it was a Linux exclusive game?

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by tentus_ on 02/22/2008 15:33, refers to #83

I'd probably get on its forums and bitch about how slow Master Chief is, and hope that the developers don't make some of the ridiculously bad decisions they made along the way. I run faster with an armload of wood logs than he does, and he's the one that has been enhanced.

But regardless of what I think of Halo, I still don't see the attraction of remaking Halo maps. They aren't that good IMO and the speed difference between the two games will make a large map from Halo into a medium sized map in Sauer. It's just a better idea to design your own map, that way you don't even have to worry about copyright or accuracy or anything.

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by yoopers on 02/22/2008 22:13, refers to #84

I want someone to re-make the Pacman maps for Sauer as 3D spaces. Or port every know Doom map over. Or Super Mario Bros. 2, now wouldn't it be cool to have a Princess Peach playermodel?. ;]

Seriously though, there's nothing wrong with taking inspiration wherever it may be found, but, as Picasso said, "Bad artists copy, good artists steal."

It seems to me that you can be inspired by the Halo maps if they move you, hate them and parody them if they don't, but you should "steal" the substance of the original, regardless, and try to create something even better.

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by jesus-J.J.M.G. on 02/23/2008 02:51, refers to #71

there will not be a halo 4 the story ended but htey are making halo wars for xbox 360

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by Passa on 02/24/2008 12:25, refers to #86

If you've finished Halo 3 on Legendary you'd know the story has definitely not ended ;)

tentus you bring up a good point there, Halo maps just wouldn't work in Sauerbraten, plain and simple. The pacing of both games is incredibly different (as well as core gameplay). You'd need to make serious modifications for some of the maps to work.

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by tman_elite on 02/27/2008 00:54, refers to #87

I don't really think this is true. In sauer, you run fast. In halo, you run slow. In halo you hop on a mongoose, ghost, banshee, warthog, etc. Suddenly you are fast again...

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by yetanotherdemosthenescomputer on 02/27/2008 01:50, refers to #88

Which is ironic, because with all that augmentation & powered armor, they should be able to move quite quickly.

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by tman_elite on 02/27/2008 02:16, refers to #89

Well actually all that power-armor would probably slow you down... Anyway that's not the point. All I'm saying is that the maps should be fine because you run faster than in halo, but in halo there are other ways of getting around (vehicles, teleporters or mancannons, etc.)

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