Grenade Launcher

by geartrooper^2 on 09/23/2007 15:29, 23 messages, last message: 09/25/2007 02:34, 5214 views, last view: 05/02/2024 11:40

While the current grenade launcher is very good, it is not usable with the upcoming hudhands and warrants a redesign. I am just about tapped out for ideas for now. So I'm asking 2d artists and 3d artists to come up with concepts. The most popular one will be used. If you can't model it in 3d yourself I will. Some ideas to keep in mind;

Moving parts are great!
Plasma, like flowing through tubes, is possible.
Glowing/shiny/metal parts are possible.
The reload animation for the grenade launcher is very short due to firing speed. Keep this aspect in mind when designing the reload apperture.

Post some drawings or screenshots here and we'll all decide on the best which will be used. And don't hesitate to ask about design possibilities if you get stuck.

geartrooper

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by James007 on 09/23/2007 19:04

i could maybe make a model of it, would probably end up \"high poly\" though.

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by geartrooper^2 on 09/23/2007 19:06

How about some sketches? Going high poly on a design without approval might be a waste of time.

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by shadow,516 on 09/23/2007 19:57, refers to #3

the GL is MD3. Why don't we worry about the sad state of the other weapons first?

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by Julius on 09/23/2007 20:10

IMHO HUD hands arn't needed at all for a game like Sauerbraten (see Quake3/UT2004 as an example for games without hud arms).
The weapons just need to be designed with that in mind.

They just add a lot of work and (since convincing hands are extremely hard to model and animate) will probably lower the graphical quality of the HUD weapons.

Besides, Sauerbraten is all about simplicity right? :p

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by geartrooper^2 on 09/23/2007 20:38

The current gl has its own set of hands. And we are worrying about the other weapons. All of them.

Julius the hands are already finished aside from a permanent texture. And I'm actually pretty proud of the one I did for them.

Once again. If you have a gl design in mind, sketch it. Post it. Discuss any design elements you may be unsure of and I or another will do our best to help. We have hands to animate it.

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by SanHolo on 09/23/2007 21:38

Cool, does that mean that in some upcoming release, we'll be able to see which weapon another player is holding?

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by w4 ¿?¿?¿ on 09/23/2007 22:59

Should it still be sifi because im not good at that.

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by Julius on 09/23/2007 23:16

@geartrooper: A untextured hand mesh is maybe 5-10% of the actual work needed, and I can perfectly understand that you are proud of them and want them included (who wouldn't), but I would really strongly suggest that they arn't.

Besides... if the hand mesh isn't actually included in the same file as the HUDgun (which would be needed if there was a real performance benefit from it) have you even though about the difficulties you would get syncronising those animations both during creation (to a lesser extent) and during runtime?

@HanSolo: yes that is the basic idea (but totally unrealted to the topic of the hands) but there is still a lot of work to do I think.

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#12: hmm

by shadow,516 on 09/23/2007 23:49

I really like the look of the gauss gun from STALKER. I know it's not a grenade launcher, but the same look would definitely work.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7374/ssscott1122051347200st.jpg

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by geartrooper^2 on 09/24/2007 01:29

Julius you aren't listening. The hands are finished. They're being used. One set of hands can be used on an infinite number of weapons as long as the tags are there. I've already done the animations for the knife, pistol, and plasma bow. The system works. I'm using it.

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by Louis on 09/24/2007 01:35

Plasma bow?

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by geartrooper^2 on 09/24/2007 03:04

Heh. Shhh! Pretend you didn't hear that.

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by Louis on 09/24/2007 03:52

TOO LATE
IMMA TELL A BEAR
AND BILL O REILLY

More seriously, do you have the thumbs up from Aard or Eihrul for that?

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#17: Re: hmm

by eihrul on 09/24/2007 03:57, refers to #12

That's an example of how NOT to make a hudgun.

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#18: Re: hmm

by SheeEttin on 09/24/2007 21:40, refers to #17

Yeah. Not to mention it's totally unrealistic. Having a scope up that high would hugely throw off your aim.

Personally, I rather like the current grenade launcher model. It's relatively realistic, and it seems appropriate.
If a new one MUST be made, I have no clue what it should look like. I can't visualize using a grenade launcher that does the same thing (i.e. throw grenades with that arc) looking like anything else.

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by Louis on 09/24/2007 22:03

I have a very rough concept; will post it in bout 1 hr.

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#20: Re: hmm

by shadow,516 on 09/24/2007 23:34, refers to #17

I didn't say copy it. I said use the LOOK (the spiky things coming out specifically).

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#21: Re: hmm

by Jake77777 on 09/25/2007 00:45, refers to #12

That gun looks more like a modified M16. Thats no tanything close to a grenade launcher.

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#22: Re: hmm

by SheeEttin on 09/25/2007 01:28, refers to #21

/me mumbles something about the M203 grenade launcher

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#23: Re: hmm

by Jake77777 on 09/25/2007 02:34, refers to #22

Not meaning to argue, but i didnt see an M203 grenade launcher attached to the bottom of the gun. I think i know what you mean though

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