Game moving VERY VERY slow. .

by OneSide70 on 07/26/2007 04:09, 28 messages, last message: 08/07/2007 23:44, 11086 views, last view: 05/05/2024 16:00

I just trashed my XP system and set up a Linux system using the 2007 Mandriva KDE 3.5.4 version.

I\\\'m kinda new to Linux and am still learning. A co-worker recommended I download this game as it would be great to test the new system. I got it unzipped, compiled and installed, but it runs very very slow and choppy.

Here are my system stats:

AMD Sempron 3100+
1.8 GHZ
256 KB L2 cache
768 DDR RAM
S3 Unichrome 3-D graphics (AGP slot available)

I\\\'m just wondering what I have to do to get this game to run smoothly and quickly on my system. Do I need to re-do the refresh rates on the game, get a better vidoe card, get more RAM - what?

This game looks awesome and I\\\'m just trying to solve this problem. Any help you can give me would be much appreciated.

Thanks,


DS

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by rancor on 07/26/2007 21:41, refers to #7

You could play with these performance settings, but it's probably not going to do much good, since fundamentally the Unichrome is DX7 class hardware. This thread on Via's forums provides some insight into how bad things are: http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=74681
This search on newegg might be a good starting point:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=48&Description=&Type=&N=2010380048&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&PropertyCodeValue=696%3A9640&PropertyCodeValue=696%3A9639&PropertyCodeValue=3055%3A20548&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A23220&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A20129&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A20130&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A23289&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A10550&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A9573&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A18817&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A18816&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A20619&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A20131&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A19571&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A17485&PropertyCodeValue=679%3A16838&PropertyCodeValue=683%3A9611&PropertyCodeValue=683%3A24927&PropertyCodeValue=683%3A27613&PropertyCodeValue=683%3A20729&PropertyCodeValue=683%3A10557&PropertyCodeValue=683%3A14597
To give you a general idea of the performance you can expect, I got 80-150 FPS with a 6800XT with settings pretty much maxed out. Also, these cards will allow you to enable every shiny piece of Compiz Fusion driven eye candy that you could possibly desire, as demonstrated in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w

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by rancor on 07/26/2007 21:42, refers to #9

OMG, I had no idea that link was so long... sorry!

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by MeatROme on 07/26/2007 21:43, refers to #8

heh. guess I wasn't following this thread - #6 had spaces at the -w and -h params ... actually I only wanted to fix that part.

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by OneSide70 on 07/28/2007 03:18, refers to #1

I kinda figured I would need to upgrade my video card. When I started this whole mess, I knew that would be the achilles heel of the system.

Thankfully, I've already budgeted out about $80 for a new card.

I did find a MSI NX8500GT-T2D256E GeForce 8500 GT 256MB PCI Express Video Card w/DVI for about $75.00 online.

If you have any recommendations, let me know.

Thanks again for all of your help,


DS

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#13: ..

by Drakas on 07/28/2007 08:51

the 8500 is just a bit weaker than 6600 in some specs, but might be a good choice.
I'd go for a 8600, and have bought a 8600GTS ... just can't wait for it ;)

I think 8600GT would do just fine.

Don't look at MSI! :P

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by rancor on 07/28/2007 09:40, refers to #12

Actually, although still quite solid, the 8x00 series apparently has some performance issues on Linux right now. Though I'm sure nVidia will fix this, the absolute best on Linux at the moment is a 7900, if I recall correctly. Have a look at http://phoronix.com, they have really good write ups on Linux gaming issues.

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by Passa on 07/28/2007 15:19

7600GT if you can find one cheap. Avoid the 8500GT at all costs, its terrible value. 8600GTS over the 8600GT as well, the 7600GT outperforms the 8600GT in some benchmarks, they are equal on most and the 7600GT is cheaper.

I know what you mean about the issues rancor, but its because the delay between the Linux driver version and the Windows one. The equivalent version on Windows of the Linux Forcewares (100.xx?) has the same problems, but Windows is so damn far ahead (they released 162.18 today and they are damn fast indeed).

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by demosthenes on 07/28/2007 17:46, refers to #15

The difference between 7600GT and 8600GT cards on newegg seems to be about 10-20 dollars and DX9 and DX10. For Vista users, I'd say go with a 8600GT, for everbody else, use a 7600GT, if those are your two options.

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by rancor on 07/28/2007 21:59, refers to #15

I see... that makes sense, I'd bet on seeing Linux Forceware 162 once the Vista issues are hammered out. At that rate it might be best to get the 8600, which is still about as fast as a 7900, even with the current Linux drivers. And then you get a nice performance bonus in a few months!

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by Passa on 07/29/2007 01:48, refers to #17

Well.. the 8600GTS is as fast as the 7900GT. 8600GT is tripe in my opinion. The 8XXX series removes backwards compatibility with older DX versions. That means for example, you can't run games in lower DX modes to get a performance boost.

7600GT > 8600GT, the 7600GT can be set to DX7 or whatever and you'll be able to play certain games at acceptable speeds (playing FEAR and CoD2 in DX8 is a good example, or Source engine games in DX7).

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by rancor on 07/29/2007 02:06, refers to #18

Hadn't factored that into my consideration, since I was only evaluating in terms of using it on Linux.

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by Passa on 07/29/2007 02:55, refers to #19

"Hadn't factored that into my consideration, since I was only evaluating in terms of using it on Linux."

Can't confirm this but perhaps it works the same way with OpenGL versions?

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by rancor on 07/29/2007 03:20, refers to #20

Nope, the most recent version is 2.0, with various extensions. Both cards have identical support for it. Typically an OpenGL renderer will have options to enable or disable specific features, such as the r_ext_compressed_textures cvar in Quake 3.

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by Max of S2D [Fr] on 08/02/2007 15:57

geforce 8500gt runs fine with sauerbraten ;)

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#23: hmm

by Qconorkirk03pattrickdcfasfsdf0909090Q on 08/04/2007 03:54

So does an ATI HD X2900XT

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by Drakas on 08/04/2007 12:25, refers to #22

6600 does just fine :P

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by Passa on 08/04/2007 16:06, refers to #24

The 8500GT performs somewhat in range of the 6600, so that testament rings true ;)

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by TomCat39 on 08/07/2007 05:33

wasn't AGP slot specified for the machine in question? You can't use a PCIe (PCI Express) card in an AGP slot, the fastest NVidia card for AGP is the 7800 GS. Which is what I use and it runs Sauer just fine.

I turn bloom on while running at 1024x768 with 4x AA and run around 85 frames per second typically. All fancies on. Mind you, I am running with Windows XP, latest NVidia forceware drivers but only AGP 4x because of the VIA driver issues and AGP 8x. But from everything I've read, the performance difference between 4x and 8x is so miniscule, it's not worth it. The CPU bottlenecks it before the AGP slot does.

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#27: cube

by frankie on 08/07/2007 23:41

is this a online game?

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#28: Re: cube

by hampus_ on 08/07/2007 23:44, refers to #27

Yes, you can play it online.

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