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disabled mastermode. An Alternative Idea

by foreach on 02/19/2007 14:59, 16 messages, last message: 02/20/2007 21:04, 2332 views, last view: 05/02/2024 16:49

Hi community!

First I would like to thank every developer, designer, player, etc for making sauerbraten what it is today!
But there are some people who do not appreciate your work. I have an idea that I hope could help us to cope with those people a bit better.

Some server admins have now locked the master mode for public users. This is very effective against those troublemakers that use master-mode to kick people. But on the other hand makes live much easier for cheaters, teamkillers and name-fakers. As a result its not possible react to such disturbances most of the time.

The other argument is that most players are responsible people. And the chances that one of them gets master is quite high, if only they would make them selves master every time there isn't already one. But most don't. I must admit that I'm one of them. I just don't like to be the master of other players without a very pressing reason.

I was thinking of a solution somewhere between those two existing possibilities. My idea is to expand the voting possibilities. E.g. one can initiate a vote to kick somebody and if enough agree it's done. The same as it's done with map changes currently. If that would be possible, a master would not be necessary in 99% of the time we currently need one. As a result the master mode could be locked for public use without giving cheaters and teamkillers a simpler live as they already have.

I would like to suggested a second idea I had that would work together nicely with the first one. Currently voting doesn't seem to work very well on pubic servers. Usually there are between 0-2 reactions to an initial vote. The reasons for this, I guess, are:
* the chat scrolls so fast that it's
very likely to oversee a vote.
* very often response-voters fail to
select the same combination of map
and mode. (maybe because of the
fast scrolling chat)
* Its not possible to distinguish
between negative-votes and no-votes
(which would be a reaction too).

I would suggest to display something like this on every players screen after someone started a vote:

****************************************
Change map(mode) to:
complex (instag)
YES (F1) (4 of 10 players)
NO (F2) (1 of 10 players)
DON'T CARE (F3) (2 of 10 players)
(not voted: 3 players, 5 sec remaining)
****************************************

This are the reasons why I think that would be a good idea:
* no overseeing of a vote
* a clear start and end of a vote
(timeout)
* vote by pressing a button (F1-F3 in
this example) instead of navigating
through a menu
* clear separation of YES/NO/DON'T CARE
instead of only YES.

There are some things that must be taken care of. The player must be able to ignore the vote and continue playing without an interruption.
As a result of this:
* the displayed vote must stay fixed
even if the player is moving.
* not displayed at the screens center
or somewhere else where it would be
disturbing.
* the mouse must keep their targeting
and shooting functionality (not
turning into a cursor)
* there should be a limit of votes per
minute a player can start to
prevent flooding.

If I can be of any help, I'm sure to find some time working at the implementation of those ideas.

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by rpointon on 02/19/2007 16:06

In theory it should be possible to cache and show the vote info you suggest within the exiting vote menu.

It may be better leaving it to the user to push esc or a hotkey to bring up the vote menu... else having menus (or similar) automatically appear everytime someone votes would be somewhat annoying.