sendmap while non-coopedit multiplayer matches

by sasser on 01/13/2007 23:49, 18 messages, last message: 01/29/2007 14:04, 1415 views, last view: 04/30/2024 08:22

i build a nice map and want to play it with others. the problem is that i have to change always from coopedit 2 play because noone has got the map.
I would like the possibility of uploading the map while playing.

mfg

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by {LiD}CC_machine on 01/14/2007 16:44

question: _why_ only in edit? i dont understand it at all! ^o|

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by DaedalusMortalis on 01/14/2007 17:12

Neither do I.

I suspect you just make a package for your map and advertise it online so others can download and apply.

But I think that is kinda stupid when you could just be able to DL and share maps ingame... w/o coopedit.

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by Greywhind on 01/14/2007 17:42

This one was discussed a few months ago. The problem is with malformed map files. If a cheater wanted to, he could force-send a malformed map file to everyone and crash the game.

That's why.

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by shadow,516 on 01/14/2007 19:41, refers to #3

why does the game crash with a malformed map header (or even an incompatible version) ANYWAYS? It should just load the default map again...

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by SheeEttin on 01/14/2007 21:45

How do you force-send a map? As far as I knew, sending a map merely sent the map to the server and everyone had to do a /getmap to receive it. I don't know where a /getmap is forced. If this does happen, it should be disabled.

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by Passa on 01/14/2007 22:38, refers to #5

The cheater would use a hacked Sauerbraten client.

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by SanHolo on 01/15/2007 10:32, refers to #6

Yes, but if everyone else uses regular clients, it should not be possible to force-send a map anyway, the client should simply ignore that command.

And that regular client could check if the map was valid and only then load it, else staying at the current map.

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by Greywhind on 01/15/2007 15:39

Everyone would getmap before they realized the problem. It wouldn't be forced, but they'd think they were getting a new map when actually they would crash.

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by shadow,516 on 01/15/2007 18:43, refers to #8

Again, why would it crash? If there's a problem, just load the default level.

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by 1veedo on 01/15/2007 19:21

Greywhind I dont know who told you that but they didn't know what they were talking about.

As it is, this very second, a "cheater" could upload a "malformed map file" on a coop server. Cheaters already can, and sometimes do, send bad map files. You end up having people w/ two different maps loaded on the same server.

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#11: YUP!

by Snowy18 { Clan 3D1T } on 01/20/2007 22:59

Ye i need it
its simple if i am busy in coopedit
but not in ffa insta or wt*..
i want it!

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by Passa on 01/20/2007 23:36

Its been discussed before, and it would have limitations even if it was added (.cfgs could not be distributed). Plus, hacked clients could send malformed map files, causing everyone on the server to disconnect.

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by 1veedo on 01/21/2007 03:46, refers to #12

Passa as I said above, hacked clients can already send malformed map files.

I double checked myself. Unlike what shadow,516 said, you can completely crash the game w/ a bad map file.

Sense this is a problem for coop, by your logic, we shouldn\'t have coop either.

Holy fuck you guys we have to disable coop right away cause a hacker can send malformed map files and crash everyone! This is a warning to everyone: DO NOT JOIN COOP OR YOU WILL DIE.

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by shadow,516 on 01/21/2007 05:21, refers to #13

I understand that it DOES crash sauerbraten, I just think it's possible to fix.

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by Drakas on 01/21/2007 11:07, refers to #14

It is possible to fix - simply, you have to verify whether the file data meets the criteria etc, as well as all the cubes are put in valid places... Well, takes some work to do.

1veedo: a bad map file crashes the game. a bad config file can destroy your installation, or in some cases - affect your system pretty badly!

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by SheeEttin on 01/23/2007 18:30

Perhaps a preview function for sending cfgs? Players could then quickly preview it before loading.

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by 1veedo on 01/29/2007 00:29, refers to #15

Damn people are stupid.

Passa as I said above, hacked clients can already send malformed map files.

I double checked myself. Unlike what shadow,516 said, you can completely crash the game w/ a bad map file.

Sense this is a problem for coop, by your logic, we shouldn\'t have coop either.

Holy fuck you guys we have to disable coop right away cause a hacker can send malformed map files and crash everyone! This is a warning to everyone: DO NOT JOIN COOP OR YOU WILL DIE.

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by SanHolo on 01/29/2007 14:04, refers to #17

The verification of the validity of the map must not take place on the senders' sauer application but on the receivers'. Problem of hacked clients solved.

As Drakas already said, that'll require quite some work from the developers.

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