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Considering shutting down master server...

by eihrul on 09/18/2006 02:59, 114 messages, last message: 10/21/2006 04:37, 82022 views, last view: 11/30/2021 19:08

Well, today I've seen the biggest display of immaturity I've ever seen. People running around, connecting to servers as soon as they saw someone else connect, crashing other clients, banning them, etc.

If this is what it has come to, we'll just shut down the master server. People only seem to want to abuse the service we're graciously providing for free, and fuck it up for everyone else.

If that's the case, if that's what some of you guys really want, fine, we'll just shut down the service since it's basically unusable to anyone as is.

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#65: This Subject

by ThatGuy on 09/22/2006 22:01

The \\\"Crash Hack\\\" is caused by sending many hit packets to the server, with a negative damage being dealt. Originally, the hack was meant to give all other players health. The hack worked fine in previous versions of Sauer. But in the newest Sauer release, players crash instead of gaining health.

Hopefully that helps pinpoint the problem. ;)

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#66: Re: This Subject

by eihrul on 09/23/2006 01:05, refers to #65

How about just not doing that in the first place?

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#67: Re: This Subject

by Passa on 09/23/2006 01:14, refers to #65

Its you who was crashing clients then? You find it fucking funny? I havent had a decent game of Sauerbraten for days, and its all because of you and your hacks..

Why do some people have to be so malicious..

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#68: Re: This Subject

by ADINSX on 09/23/2006 02:42, refers to #67

I only used the hack a few times, about a week and a half ago. If you can't find a decent game, it's not because of me. I haven't used the hack since then, nor do I plan to use it again. For those people who were playing a week and a half ago, and were affected by my hacking (which only lasted for about a half hour), I apologize. If you have had problems in the game since that time, I had nothing to do with it.

And in response to eihrul's comment, you are right. I shouldn't have done it in the first place. I apologize. But the recent "wave" of hacking is not because of me. I admit I contributed to the problem, but I am most certainly not the underlying cause.

If it is any consolation, I have recently modified the hack to target only a single player, and I have already used it once to crash a player who was hacking (who was also the master). I suppose this makes me a criminal turned vigilante, but that's better than staying a criminal. (If anyone objects to me using the crash-hack against cheaters, say so now.)

So, in conclusion, I was an asshole. A week and a half ago, at least. I just want to let people know that I haven't done anything wrong since that half-hour period, and I only told one other person how the hack worked. That one other person deffinitly isn't copying what I did, because that person actually complained about what I did on this forum (not giving names). I wish I could tell you who is causing continued problems, but I honestly don't know.

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#69: Re: This Subject

by Passa on 09/23/2006 04:37, refers to #68

"I have recently modified the hack to target only a single player, and I have already used it once to crash a player who was hacking"

don't
use
modified
clients
online
at
all

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#70: Re: This Subject

by ADINSX on 09/23/2006 04:46, refers to #69

Fine. I will just do what most people do and leave the server if someone is cheating.

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#71: Message censored by administrator

by CCmachine_firefox2 on 09/23/2006 11:17

#72: Re: ..

by Passa on 09/23/2006 12:27, refers to #71

Ehh? That entierly defeats teh purpose, we dont want hackers gettingonto the sevrers atall.

btw sorry if myspelling is abitweitd im testin out my new projector :D (ie its crap and i cant see shit)

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#73: Re: ..

by Drakas on 09/23/2006 12:35, refers to #72

Jeez.
Some people are such noobs!!

I had started from basic steps in UT:GOTY. I was owned by a bot at the first level. Now I can play one level away from Godlike (Inhuman IIRC).

Some people spend ages training their skills.
Some noob comes in, who can't play, and wants to be able to play straight away. However, they are too stupid to realise that others had worked harder than them and want to play fair games!
We just want to enjoy the game, fool!

If you can't play, then start on sauer's SP mode level 1. When you finish level 6, then come and play against me!

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#74: ..

by makkE on 09/23/2006 12:44

Sorry, cc machine, passa´s right.Better exchange servers with ppl in irc(private) or IM, or email.

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#75: ..

by CCmachine_firefox2 on 09/23/2006 13:42

fine.....

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#76: Re: This Subject

by CCmachine_firefox2 on 09/23/2006 14:33, refers to #69

i thought the idea of not having the netcode limit on the source was so that people could use non-cheat hacks (accesibility, neat things impossible to do with scripting, etc) in multi?

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#77: Re: This Subject

by eihrul on 09/23/2006 16:28, refers to #76

Nope, the point of not using Cube's setup is that it was a pain in the ass to support more than 2 platforms by ourselves. This way people can compile their own bins, and we don't have to worry about supporting them.

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#78: Re: ..

by SanHolo on 09/25/2006 14:43, refers to #73

Drakas, you name it.

People don't want to earn things, they want to get it right now, and this sucks.
Come on, I started with Doom II and played it so many times until I was able to finish each level starting with just the gun! Now people who barely can hit an OK-Button join the game and wonder why they get slaughtered? Ever wondered why Michael Johnson runs 200m faster than you do 80m? No, he doesn't cheat!

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#79: Re: ..

by Greenline on 09/26/2006 01:23, refers to #78

Hi everyone. I\\\'m a regular player of sauerbraten because I like it\\\'s style of gameplay. I don\\\'t edit (I do gawk at others edit creations, though) and I most certaintly do not / can not make any cheat mods. some of you may recognize me from games as bonghit.

I too have been dismayed at the level of cheating. Recently I noticed there are less servers online than what I had remembered. Curious, I investigated and my search led me to this board. As I understand, the main server is shut down. Are there other servers out there I could try and play? How do I dial up another server within sauerbraten?

I apologize is my message is noobish, despite playing the game for a long time now, I never immersed myself in the technical side of it.

Thank you,
Player just wanting a fair game

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#80: ..

by NIm on 09/26/2006 07:22

This is really annoying that the master server is offline. This is not the 1990s. I'd like to be able to play with other people, whether or not cheaters come. Let there be an option in the game not to contact the mster server, and let those who wish to use the lack of a master as protection against cheaters do so, but let the rest of us use the master server.

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#81: ..

by m3ep on 09/26/2006 14:06

Just use this one.
It works pretty well :)

http://sm.wemew.org/info

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#82: Message censored by administrator

by eihrul on 09/27/2006 01:13

#83: WTF?

by shadow,516 on 09/27/2006 04:16

Why would eihrul censor his own post?

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#84: ..

by Max of S2D [Fr] on 09/27/2006 07:48

Eihrul is implementing Cryptography to Sauerbraten, i just know that.

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