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#9242: Re: LIGHTING HELP!

by eihrul on 10/09/2007 06:30, refers to #9241

You must do a /calclight

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#9243: Models

by CrazyChao on 10/10/2007 01:44

Thanks. I have another question (suprise, suprise.) I have imported a model which I think is configured correctly:

md3load tris.md3
md3skin mesh skin.jpg mask.jpg
mdlspec 20
mdlambient 5
mdlspin -3

I do not know how to put it into the game, however. Could someone help? (I know I ask a lot of questions. I read as many documents as I can to find the answers before I do.)

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#9244: ..

by Acord on 10/10/2007 01:47

Which model is it for? A mapmodel?

The easiest thing to do is to simply replace a model. If you want to *add* a model, then it really depends on what type: Mapmodel, vwep, hudgun, character, etc.

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#9245: Model

by CrazyChao on 10/10/2007 01:49

I am trying to *add* a model.

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#9246: Re: Model

by tentus_ on 10/10/2007 01:59, refers to #9245

As Acord asked, what kind? If we're talking about adding a player model, then we'll have to edit the engine. If we're adding a mapmodel, then it's negligibly easy.

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#9247: Re: Model

by eihrul on 10/10/2007 02:01, refers to #9245

You must add it to the model list in your map's cfg.

First use the command "mapmodelreset" to reset the map model list back to empty, then use "mmodel relative/path/to/your/model/here/".

So if you put your model in "packages/models/mystuff/some_model" then your map.cfg would include:

mapmodelreset
mmodel "mystuff/some_model"

Note that if you don't do the mapmodelreset, it will take the model onto the end of the model list that is specified in data/default_map_models.cfg

However, if you do that, you run the risk that if we change that list, or add models to it in the future, the number you use to reference your map model with entities won't match anymore.

So if you must use those definitions too, you are best to either copy the contents of default_map_models.cfg, or just include the models you need to use manually via use of a few individual "mmodel whatever" commands for stuff you specifically need. Just resetting the map model list and specifying exactly the models you need is usually the better option anyway.

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#9248: Re: Model

by CrazyChao on 10/10/2007 02:08, refers to #9247

Thank you so much. And, why is it... when I ask a question... right before someone posts the answer, I find it on my own? Thank you, everyone.

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#9249: Re: Model

by tentus_ on 10/10/2007 02:50, refers to #9248

I find that by figuring out how to word my question to get an answer, i figure out the answer itself. That's why it's a good idea to write down a list of questions- a large number that you write down will get answered before you even get close to filling a page of paper or a single screen of text.

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#9250: Colors

by CrazyChao on 10/10/2007 04:44

Okay, this is my last question for a while. I have seen maps where the "Title by Autor" is colored, such as Lost in Space. How do I do this?

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#9251: Re: Colors

by MeatROme on 10/10/2007 06:06, refers to #9250

you need to enter the vertical-line feed character \f and the color-number : 0:green, 1:blue, 2:yellow, 3:red, 4:grey, 5:magenta, 6:orange ... on linux I just press Ctrl + L
If all fails - use this snippet of CubeScript to help you along:

_CC = [^L]
COL = [result (concatword $_CC $arg1 $arg2)]
test_txt = (concat (COL 3 red) (COL 1 blue))

like e.g. so

msg = (concat (COL 0 this) is (COL 3 my) (COL 0 first) map); mapmsg $msg

HTH :)

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#9252: Re: Colors

by eihrul on 10/10/2007 06:24, refers to #9251

Note that literally writing ^L will not work, and as such that is misleading. You must press control-L to generate the character, and that is how SOME text editors will display it (as the two characters ^L, but not always).

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#9253: Re: Colors

by MeatROme on 10/10/2007 08:16, refers to #9252

oh, right ... last time I sent the CubeScript as email attachment in answer ...
@ CrazyChao:
copy-n-paste from packages/base/4b1.cfg if in doubt how to create this control-character yourself.
e.g. from line 30 - lot's there ;-)

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#9254: smaller grid size?

by daves on 10/10/2007 08:17

I was trying to make a map with railings and smaller things, but the grid size didn't seem to go that small, is there a way to change the grid size so that it allows me to make it smaller so i can make rails?

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#9255: Re: smaller grid size?

by MeatROme on 10/10/2007 08:20, refers to #9254

you can push in the faces of smallest grid-size cubes (F + MW) .. not every structure can be built that way easily though - mapmodels might be in order, depending on your goal.

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#9256: Import external levels in and MP A.I?

by Dean Avanti on 10/11/2007 01:51

Hi Im new to this engine, I have 2 questions that will help me decide if this is an engine I can use for a project I have in mind.

Can I export models in to make the level with, I dont mean an item, like a health pack, I mean a model to make the BSP, Im presuming this is a BSP engine, I have full maps id like to import in, so Id like to know if this is possible?

Also does this engine has AI for a multiplayer game, Id like to make a Quake 3 type game, so Id like the MP game to have enemy characters to shoot for the player, is that possible, or do I have to code that myself?

Dean Avanti
Avanti Vita Studios.
http://www.avantivita.com
Video games and game tools.

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#9257: Message censored by administrator

by thenewrandomcivilian [new desktop!] on 10/11/2007 02:28, refers to #9256

#9258: Re: Import external levels in and MP A.I?

by eihrul on 10/11/2007 02:33, refers to #9256

The engine uses its own format. Or rather, the entire reason the engine exists is because it provides a better way to make maps than a BSP engine. So importing maps from other engines would be against its goals, nor would they even be compatible with how Sauerbraten represents its maps.

The game has some limited random-walk AI, but no path finding or anything more intelligent at the moment.

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#9259: Re: Import external levels in and MP A.I?

by SheeEttin on 10/11/2007 02:49, refers to #9258

However, SauerMod supports bots which follow a predetermined path, diverting course for pickups or to fight with people (or other bots).

My knowledge on SauerMod's bots is very limited, talk to Quin for more info. (Or just read the source.)

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#9260: ..

by Dean Avanti on 10/11/2007 04:45

so is there any way to import a model format, and turn it into a map, does it have any import functions that support the import of a model format, any model type, that this can then be turned into a map

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#9261: Re: ..

by eihrul on 10/11/2007 06:23, refers to #9260

If you use Sauerbraten, your maps have to be in Sauerbraten's format. You can only really use models for small little details.

Sauerbraten is about a DIFFERENT way of making maps, a way that is just incompatible with external modelers.

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